Hardy Install CD cannot "see" my new, large, hard idsk

Asked by David A. Cobb

I have an 'official' Installer 8.04 LTS CD. Not long back, I installed successfully, all was good!
Then my (primary) hard disk went south! Booting got a "click" - pause - "click" (and repeat while true).

So, I talked around and got a good deal on a large disk-drive. Installed it.
The BIOS sees "Primary IDE, Master: LBA, ATA 100, 160GB"

Boot up the installer.
The installer sees only my "Secondary IDE, Slave: LBA 33, 8GB" -- it simply cannot see the primary disk at all.

First thought, it's because of the (new) SCSI-emulation handling of IDE drives. I dug out my 5.04 installer and booted it up. Using the /dev/hda scheme, I could see and partition my new drive.

Figured it might be worth seeing whether having a filesystem on the big disk would help, went back to the 8.04 installer. No joy there, still can't see it.

The only thing I can think of is that the problem is the size of the drive. And I know they now come bigger than that.

In desperation, I went back and actually installed from the 5.04 installer ( what a drag, by comparison).
But, after installing the boot loader, the re-boot activates the BIOS "Network Boot Helper" which spins wheels for a minute or two before realizing no-one is going to send it anything good. I've tried both GRUB and LILO.

I'm going to have to sit and watch this topic! I also can't do much with my e-mail!!!

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Sam Flory (samflory) said :
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Can we get the ide info from the "dmesg" command? Does the drive show up if the slave drive isn't plugged in? Where is the drive plugged into the ide drive chain?

PS- Do you have another IDE port that isn't in use? IDE master and slave configs are a bad idea for a number of reasons.

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David A. Cobb (superbiskit) said :
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[I'm at work right now. I'll get the dmesg info tomorrow.]

Initial Attempt:
IDE 0, MASTER = New disk (ATA 100, 160GB)
IDE 1, MASTER = CD-WRITER -- I've been told it must be master to allow booting CD
IDE 1, SLAVE = ATA 33, 8GB Will be Swap+/var+/tmp to allow at least minimal overlapped functions (?)

Results as described above.

Second Attempt:
Removed the IDE 1, SLAVE

Hardy installer GPARTED says "No devices found"

Third Attempt:
IDE 0, MASTER = old ATA 33, 8GB
IDE 1, MASTER = CD-WRITER
IDE 1, SLAVE = new ATA 100, 160GB

GPARTED doesn't see the second disk, shows only the 8GB drive.

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Sam, please say more about Master/Slave config problems. I've been running with at least 2 drives for at least 5 years.

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Sam Flory (samflory) said :
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  You might try putting the hard disks on the same ide cable with one as a slave. I've never had anything, but trouble with a cdrom as master, and a drive as slave. You could also try making the cdrom a slave. I've booted off slave cdrom drive, but it's going to depend on your bios.

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Steve Wilson (electricpost) said :
#4

Hi David, have you set the white jump pins on the back of the drive? Manufacturer's site should tell or a label on the drive.
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