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so many updates

Asked by philip

i've been getting a lot of up-dates-have already installed about 150 ..........just received 29 more......only 4 are security type.........most are openoffice and firefox. these apps. are working very well for me now, why would i up-date them..i know there are improvements to everything but do i really need them.........i've read about frozen programs caused from up-dating.......i'm very happy with my new ubuntu os, comming from windows, and don't want to screw it up????????????

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Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#1

Hi Philip,

If you want to receive only security updates go to System => Administration => Software Sources, open the Updates tab and in the "Ubuntu updates" section leave checked only "Important security updates (hardy-security)".

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#2

Thanks Max Schukin, that solved my question.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#3

another question concerning this.........why am i getting updates for apps. i don't have?

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Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#4

You don't have to get recommended updates (hardy-updates). Those updates include bug fixes for applications, all security updates are in hardy-security. If your system works fine and you don't want to download updates for applications, you can uncheck "Recommended updates" in Software Sources.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#5

sorry but this didn't answer my question.............why am i getting updates for apps. i don't have? i would probably update my applications but i get updates for the kde desktop which i don't use. i'm using gnome with ubuntu 8.04. maybe no one has an answer for this but getting and installing updates sort of scares me.........just look at the problems on this site caused by updates. i'm a receint linux user......and very happy about it.....i am a long time user of microsoft starting back to when computers had no hard disk and everything ran in memory........any, glad those days are behind.....i just don't want to screw up my system..........i'm not knowledgable to fix stuff........especially if my computer isn't working........so,WHY DO I GET UPDATES FOR APPLICATIONS I DON'T HAVE?

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Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#6

If you have no kde applications, Update Manger shouldn't receive any kde updates.

To find out what updates were installed recently run the following command in Terminal:
sudo grep "Setting up" /var/log/apt/term.log
Post the output here.

To check if you have some kde packages installed open Terminal and enter:
sudo dpkg -l | grep kde
Post the output here.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#7

this is output of: sudo grep "Setting up" /var/log/apt/term.log

Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.124.0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up bash (3.2-0ubuntu18) ...
Setting up dpkg (1.14.16.6ubuntu4) ...
Setting up mount (2.13.1-5ubuntu2) ...
Setting up tzdata (2008c-1ubuntu0.8.04) ...
Setting up util-linux (2.13.1-5ubuntu2) ...
Setting up bsdutils (1:2.13.1-5ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libpam-runtime (0.99.7.1-5ubuntu6.1) ...
Setting up libpam0g (0.99.7.1-5ubuntu6.1) ...
Setting up libpam-modules (0.99.7.1-5ubuntu6.1) ...
Setting up libntfs-3g23 (1:1.2216-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up ntfs-3g (1:1.2216-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up foomatic-filters (3.0.2-20071204-0ubuntu2.1) ...
Setting up gnome-applets-data (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up gnome-desktop-data (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu3) ...
Setting up gnome-about (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu3) ...
Setting up libglib2.0-0 (2.16.3-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgtk2.0-common (2.12.9-3ubuntu4) ...
Setting up libgnutls13 (2.0.4-1ubuntu2.1) ...
Setting up libgtk2.0-0 (2.12.9-3ubuntu4) ...
Setting up gtk2-engines-pixbuf (2.12.9-3ubuntu4) ...
Setting up libdbus-1-3 (1.1.20-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgnome-keyring0 (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libgnomeui-common (2.22.1.0-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgnomeui-0 (2.22.1.0-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgnome-desktop-2 (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu3) ...
Setting up capplets-data (1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4.1) ...
Setting up desktop-file-utils (0.15-1ubuntu4) ...
Setting up libgnome-menu2 (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up python-gmenu (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-menus (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-settings-daemon (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libnspr4-0d (4.7.1+1.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up libedataserver1.2-9 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libnss3-1d (3.12.0.2+1.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up libcamel1.2-11 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libebook1.2-9 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libpanel-applet2-0 (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libgnome-window-settings1 (1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4.1) ...
Setting up libhal1 (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8.1) ...
Setting up libnautilus-extension1 (1:2.22.3-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up gnome-control-center (1:2.22.1-0ubuntu4.1) ...
Setting up gnome-panel-data (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libecal1.2-7 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libedata-book1.2-2 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libedata-cal1.2-6 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libegroupwise1.2-13 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgdata1.2-1 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgdata-google1.2-1 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libldap-2.4-2 (2.4.7-6ubuntu4.2) ...
Setting up evolution-data-server-common (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up evolution-data-server (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libedataserverui1.2-8 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libpolkit-gnome0 (0.7-2ubuntu1.1) ...
Setting up gnome-panel (1:2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libspeex1 (1.1.12-3ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up gstreamer0.10-plugins-good (0.10.7-3ubuntu0.1) ...
Setting up gnome-applets (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libklibc (1.5.7-4ubuntu4) ...
Setting up klibc-utils (1.5.7-4ubuntu4) ...
Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85eubuntu39.1) ...
Setting up linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic (2.6.24-19.33) ...
Setting up linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19-generic (2.6.24-19.27) ...
Setting up libssl0.9.8 (0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.1) ...
Setting up openssl (0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.1) ...
Setting up openssl-blacklist (0.3.3+0.4-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up pciutils (1:2.2.4-1.1ubuntu4) ...
Setting up sudo (1.6.9p10-1ubuntu3.2) ...
Setting up util-linux-locales (2.13.1-5ubuntu2) ...
Setting up apparmor (2.1+1075-0ubuntu9.1) ...
Setting up apparmor-utils (2.1+1075-0ubuntu9.1) ...
Setting up cpp (4:4.2.3-1ubuntu6) ...
Setting up libmagic1 (4.21-3ubuntu1) ...
Setting up file (4.21-3ubuntu1) ...
Setting up friendly-recovery (0.1.2) ...
Setting up libparted1.7-1 (1.7.1-5.1ubuntu9.1) ...
Setting up lshw (02.12.01-2ubuntu1.1) ...
Setting up openssh-client (1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2) ...
Setting up parted (1.7.1-5.1ubuntu9.1) ...
Setting up ufw (0.16.2.1) ...
Setting up libhal-storage1 (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8.1) ...
Setting up gnome-keyring (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libgksu2-0 (2.0.5-1ubuntu5.1) ...
Setting up gksu (2.0.0-5ubuntu3) ...
Setting up update-manager-core (1:0.87.27) ...
Setting up update-manager (1:0.87.27) ...
Setting up app-install-data (0.5.10.3) ...
Setting up python-launchpad-bugs (0.2.30.1) ...
Setting up gdb (6.8-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up python-problem-report (0.108.2) ...
Setting up python-apport (0.108.2) ...
Setting up apport (0.108.2) ...
Setting up apport-gtk (0.108.2) ...
Setting up dbus (1.1.20-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up dbus-x11 (1.1.20-1ubuntu2) ...
Setting up deskbar-applet (2.22.2.1-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up eog (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up evince (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up evolution-common (2.22.2-0ubuntu1.3) ...
Setting up libgtkhtml3.14-19 (3.18.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gtkhtml3.14 (3.18.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libexchange-storage1.2-3 (2.22.2-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up evolution (2.22.2-0ubuntu1.3) ...
Setting up evolution-plugins (2.22.2-0ubuntu1.3) ...
Setting up libgphoto2-port0 (2.4.0-8ubuntu7) ...
Setting up libgphoto2-2 (2.4.0-8ubuntu7) ...
Setting up libmono-cairo2.0-cil (1.2.6+dfsg-6ubuntu3) ...
Setting up f-spot (0.4.3.1-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up file-roller (2.22.3-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.2) ...
Setting up yelp (2.22.1-0ubuntu2.8.04.1) ...
Setting up xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support (1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.2) ...
Setting up firefox-3.0 (3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up firefox-3.0-gnome-support (3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up firefox (3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up firefox-gnome-support (3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1) ...
Setting up gcalctool (5.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gcc (4:4.2.3-1ubuntu6) ...
Setting up gdm (2.20.6-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up gedit-common (2.22.3-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gedit (2.22.3-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-app-install (0.5.2.8-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-cards-data (1:2.22.2.1-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-games-data (1:2.22.2.1-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-games (1:2.22.2.1-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gnome-system-monitor (2.22.1-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgvfscommon0 (0.2.4-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libsmbclient (3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.1) ...
Setting up gvfs (0.2.4-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gvfs-backends (0.2.4-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up gvfs-fuse (0.2.4-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up pm-utils (0.99.2-3ubuntu10) ...
Setting up hal (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8.1) ...
Setting up jockey-common (0.3.3-0ubuntu8) ...
Setting up jockey-gtk (0.3.3-0ubuntu8) ...
Setting up libtrackerclient0 (0.6.6-0ubuntu3.8.04.1) ...
Setting up libtracker-gtk0 (0.6.6-0ubuntu3.8.04.1) ...
Setting up tracker (0.6.6-0ubuntu3.8.04.1) ...
Setting up tracker-search-tool (0.6.6-0ubuntu3.8.04.1) ...
Setting up libdeskbar-tracker (0.6.6-0ubuntu3.8.04.1) ...
Setting up libeel2-data (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libeel2-2 (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 (0.3.4-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libgtk2.0-bin (2.12.9-3ubuntu4) ...
Setting up libpam-gnome-keyring (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libtotem-plparser10 (2.22.3-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up linux-image-generic (2.6.24.19.21) ...
Setting up linux-restricted-modules-common (2.6.24.13-19.42) ...
Setting up linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic (2.6.24.13-19.42) ...
Setting up linux-restricted-modules-generic (2.6.24.19.21) ...
Setting up linux-generic (2.6.24.19.21) ...
Setting up linux-headers-2.6.24-19 (2.6.24-19.33) ...
Setting up linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic (2.6.24-19.33) ...
Setting up linux-headers-generic (2.6.24.19.21) ...
Setting up nautilus-data (1:2.22.3-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up nautilus (1:2.22.3-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up notification-daemon (0.3.7-1ubuntu11.2) ...
Setting up policykit-gnome (0.7-2ubuntu1.1) ...
Setting up python-virtkey (0.50ubuntu0.1) ...
Setting up liblircclient0 (0.8.3~pre1-0ubuntu7.1) ...
Setting up rhythmbox (0.11.5-0ubuntu7) ...
Setting up samba-common (3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.1) ...
Setting up smbclient (3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.1) ...
Setting up seahorse (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up ssh-askpass-gnome (1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2) ...
Setting up ssl-cert (1.0.14-0ubuntu2.1) ...
Setting up transmission-common (1.06-0ubuntu5) ...
Setting up transmission-gtk (1.06-0ubuntu5) ...
Setting up xserver-xorg-core (2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9.2) ...
Setting up xserver-xorg-video-cirrus (1:1.1.0-8ubuntu1) ...
Setting up xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.2.1-1ubuntu13.4) ...
Setting up compiz-fusion-plugins-main (0.7.4-0ubuntu5) ...
Setting up language-pack-gnome-en (1:8.04+20080527) ...
Setting up language-pack-en (1:8.04+20080527) ...
Setting up language-pack-gnome-en-base (1:8.04+20080527) ...
Setting up language-pack-en-base (1:8.04+20080527) ...
Setting up evolution-exchange (2.22.2-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libavutil1d (3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7) ...
Setting up libgsm1 (1.0.12-1) ...
Setting up libavcodec1d (3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7) ...
Setting up libdc1394-13 (1.1.0-5ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libavformat1d (3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7) ...
Setting up libpostproc1d (3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7) ...
Setting up gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (0.10.3-6) ...
Setting up gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mpegdemux (0.10.15-1) ...
Setting up liba52-0.7.4 (0.7.4-11ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libdvdread3 (0.9.7-8ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libid3tag0 (0.15.1b-10) ...
Setting up libmad0 (0.15.1b-2.1ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libmpeg2-4 (0.4.1-1) ...
Setting up libsidplay1 (1.36.59-4) ...
Setting up gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly (0.10.7-3) ...
Setting up linux-libc-dev (2.6.24-19.33) ...
Setting up libc6-dev (2.7-10ubuntu3) ...
Setting up libtimedate-perl (1.1600-9) ...
Setting up patch (2.5.9-4) ...
Setting up dpkg-dev (1.14.16.6ubuntu4) ...
Setting up libstdc++6-4.2-dev (4.2.3-2ubuntu7) ...
Setting up g++-4.2 (4.2.3-2ubuntu7) ...
Setting up g++ (4:4.2.3-1ubuntu6) ...
Setting up build-essential (11.3ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libcdaudio1 (0.99.12p2-3) ...
Setting up libfaad0 (2.6.1-2) ...
Setting up mysql-common (5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1) ...
Setting up libmysqlclient15off (5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1) ...
Setting up libgmyth0 (0.7.debian1-1~hardy1) ...
Setting up libiptcdata0 (1.0.2-2) ...
Setting up libfreebob0 (1.0.7-1) ...
Setting up libjack0 (0.109.2-1ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libmms0 (0.3-6) ...
Setting up libmpcdec3 (1.2.2-1build1) ...
Setting up libopenspc0 (0.3.99a-2) ...
Setting up libsoundtouch1c2 (1.3.0-2.2) ...
Setting up libwildmidi0 (0.2.2-2) ...
Setting up gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (0.10.6-5) ...
Setting up kdelibs-data (4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1) ...
Setting up libartsc0 (1.5.9-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libaudio2 (1.9.1-1) ...
Setting up libqt3-mt (3:3.3.8-b-0ubuntu3) ...
Setting up libarts1c2a (1.5.9-0ubuntu2) ...
Setting up libavahi-qt3-1 (0.6.22-2ubuntu4) ...
Setting up liblua50 (5.0.3-3) ...
Setting up liblualib50 (5.0.3-3) ...
Setting up kdelibs4c2a (4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1) ...
Setting up libkscan1 (4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up kooka (4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up openssl-blacklist (0.3.3+0.4-0ubuntu0.8.04.3) ...
Setting up samba-common (3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.2) ...
Setting up smbclient (3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.2) ...
Setting up libsmbclient (3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.2) ...

this is output of: sudo dpkg -l | grep kde

ii kdelibs-data 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1 core shared data for all KDE applications
rc kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1 core libraries and binaries for all KDE appl

here is what i've found.........thanxfor your help Max!

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#8

i think i'm still getting updates for Evolution.........i got rid of that program, or so i thought, i don't use it.

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Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#9

You have two kde libraries: kdelibs-data, kdelibs4c2a (Some applications might have installed these libraries as dependencies). That's why you had kde updates (but only of those two libraries).

To find out what evolution libraries are installed run the following command:
sudo dpkg -l | grep evolution

You can uninstall Evolution, but you must be careful not to break your system. Some of the attached libraries for evolution are deeply embedded in the system and removing them will break many gnome applications. If you still want to uninstall Evolution, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395199 and http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-04/msg03149.html

For me everything looks normal. How many megabytes of updates have you been receiving daily? Once I had 100Mb of updates, but it was only once. Usually I get 2-20Mb per day, but sometimes up to 60Mb.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#10

i have really screwed up this os.............i did the updates..........it's messed with firefox....i'm going to have to install the os and start from scratch..........hmmmmmm....wish i could fix this.........i'll be back in an hour of so!!!!!!!!!! shouldn't have fixed what wasn't broke. i don't have the rhythm box music player anymore either????? ugggggg!!!!!! firefox won't remember bookmarks!*%%*@@+

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Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#11

How did you screw your os? Or the updates screwed your system? Can you give me more details about it? Maybe I can help you out.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#12

here i am back again........thanx for being here.........i don't know, i did the updates & also removed some evolution stuff......really messed things up. now....i reinstalled ubuntu 8.04____new system now. itried to use the add/remove to get rid of evolution and it won't allow me to! don't understand this. i thought that was the easy way to do it..........i used synaptic before. i think that's how i screwed things up. now i have to try getting my wireless working again and all that stuff........when my newly installed os started i had 195 updates to load.........i went ahead and installed all of them. the reasoin i wanted to get rid of evolution is because it was conflicking with something else, can't think what at the moment.

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Best Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#13

It must have been removing the Evolution libraries that screwed your system. You can't remove Evolution through Add/Remove... because some of the Evolution libraries are embedded in the system and removing them will break your system (for more information, read the links I mentioned before).

You shouldn't have reinstalled ubuntu from scratch, we could have found some solution to fix it, like installing evolution in recovery mode or reinstalling ubuntu-desktop.

There's no easy way to get rid Evolution. I tried removing all Evolution libraries except "evolution-data-server" and "evolution-data-server-common". My system is still alive =) But I'm not sure it's a 100% safe solution.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#14

Thanks Max Schukin, that solved my question.

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philip (philip-29) said : 		#15

thanx for being there for me Max! i already installed new system......everything ok right now..........got my wifi working again.....i'm going to leave evolution alone for now......it was causing me problems before. i think it was conflicting when i was trying to set up my scanner????......still working on that one.

thank you for your help!

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Max Schukin (schukin) said : 		#16

You are very welcome, Philip! I'm glad I was able to help you out :)