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Is gthumb worth another look for Xubuntu Xenial?

Asked by Doc Kelley

Are app decisions in Xubuntu Xenial frozen yet? Since the distro image size >1GB is a current issue, I would like to ask about returning to gthumb as a replacement for both ristretto and imagemagick in the daily builds. Serious graphics hackers are going to install GIMP anyway (I can't live without it), so basic users and new windows-refugees only need basic editing functions that are easily accessible. Gthumb was the Xubuntu image viewer before Precise. I think the current gthumb might offer these advantages today:

* A single app that integrates three functions:
      image viewer; simple folder-based photo manager; and basic photo/image editor.

* Clean, single-window GUI that's more consistent with the Xfce desktop and imagemagick.

* gthumb is faster and easier to use for navigating large photo collections with less powerful hardware, in my experience.

* Consumer users (and windows-refugees) are accustomed to integrated photo manager/editor apps,
     and gthumb is pretty intuitive, using the existing file system and without the overhead of Shotwell, etc.

Is there still time for discussion about the graphics apps?

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said : 		#1

Xenial is in Alpha 1 phase so things can change.

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Doc Kelley (kelley-3) said : 		#2

Thanks, that's good news. I'd love to hear thoughts from others.

So far, gthumb seems to run well in the daily build. It might just offer an opportunity to lighten the distro, while improving usability for a broad range of new users and those who need an intuitive, folder-based photo solution. Again, power users are going to install Gimp, anyway.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said : 		#3

It's nothing to do with "power users". People who need the features in GIMP will install GIMP if the abilities in the existing applications do not achieve what they desire. A lot of very casual photographers use GIMP to remove red eye. Hardly a "power user"...

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said : 		#4

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule states that feature freeze for xenial is on Feb 18th, 2016.
If you want to stimulate a change in the packages provided by default, then you have to do that in due course.
I doubt that the persons responsible for such decisions will read this question document. You might have a better chance by creating a bug report.

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Doc Kelley (kelley-3) said : 		#5

Thanks for your suggestion. The Daily Build page states that the Xubuntu Xenial image size is a bug--

"Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug)"

I'd like to connect this question/proposal to that image size bug, but I can't find it in the bug search.

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said : 		#7

I think that you overrate the information "Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug)".

Former releases (perhaps up to 12.04) were less than 680 MB (650 MiB) in size, such that the contents fit on a standard CD.
During alpha and beta stages and before the final decision how to reduce size (by deleting packages and/or files) the .iso file was larger and would not fit on a CD. That was the reason for such warning.

Nowadays the .iso files are so much bigger that there is no possibility to reduce the size to make them fit on a CD, and apparently a new target size of 1 GB (or 1 GiB ?) was set, to allow putting on a 1GB USB stick.

The current daily live .iso files are bigger than that, which is the reason for the warning being shown again.

I think you were searching for bug #1289259

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Lunna (lunna123) said : 		#8

Seeking feedback on gthumb's smooth integration in the daily build, envisioning a distro-lightening, user-friendly enhancement for newcomers and those preferring an intuitive, folder-based photo solution. Recognizing power users may opt for Gimp independently, making it a versatile choice for a wide user spectrum.

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