(x)Ubuntu on a thin client 2Gb solid state, how to

Asked by Wim

HP 4410t Thin PC
   2 Gb Solid State space
(cannot be extended with more memory)

We want to load this PC with
   xUbuntu 12.04.3LTS or 14.04.1LTS
with enough software (command-line) to
   * connect to internet
   * check modems and connections

AND eventually (if possible to store it alle within 2 Gb)
also something like
   - firefox on a desktop (xubuntu-desktop ?!?)

AND ...
   + this all in the Dutch language

Any suggestions HOW-TO do that?

Many thanks in advance!

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#1

You could install ubuntu minimal then install something like fluxbox to give a GUI. You will need to investigate how big that will be

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Wim (launchpad-xs4all) said :
#2

Thank you Andrew for your proposal...
i hoped there already was soms experience out there.

i am going to try your suggestion on an old PC with 10Gb HDisk
and let you know what my findings are.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#3

10Gb is plenty. My Lubuntu install is little over 3Gb in size

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Wim (launchpad-xs4all) said :
#4

# -- remaining QUESTION below, first info

# -- INFO

(First did a CLI on 10Gb disk to practice; that was NOT in de laptop i want to use.)

Did this:
* "burned" Xubuntu-12.04.3LTS-Altern-CD on USB-stick
* booted the HP thin PC 4410t using this USB-stick
choose:
  <F4> (mode) Command-line-installation (CLI)
partitioned the 2 Gb in ONE partition, so ONLY / (root) and NO swap

Then i fixed a WIRED internet connection
After reboot, i enabled ALL apt-sources
file /etc/apt/sources.list removed the (single) # signs, so
 precise main universe
 precise-updates main universe
 precise-security main universe multiverse
 precise-backports main universe
 extras.ubuntu.com precise main

after this:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

sudo apt-get install hwinfo xorg

# -- HDisk 3/4 filled
sudo df --si
 gives 703Mb free

# -- hwinfo gives this info:
sudo hwinfo --network
 gives
 ...
22: PCI 1c.2: 0604 PCI bridge (normal decode)
 ...
 Unique ID: ho0k.blabla
 HW Class: bridge
 Model: "Intel 82801i (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3"
 Driver: "pcieport"
 IRQ: 42 (noevents)
 DriverInfo #0:
   Driver Status: shpchp is active
   Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

23: PCI 1c.4: 0604 PCI bridge (normal decode)
 ...
 Unique ID: QSNP.blabla
 HW Class: bridge
 Model: "Intel 82801i (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5"
 Driver: "pcieport"
 IRQ: 43 (noevents)
 DriverInfo #0:
   Driver Status: shpchp is active
   Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
 ...
32: None 00.0 10700 Loopback
 ...

33: None 00.0 10701 Ethernet
 SysFS IS: /class/net/eth0
 Driver "sky2"
 HW Address: 00:25:blabla:f2
 Config Status: cfg=new, avil=yes, need=no, active=unknown
 Attached to: #23 (Ethern cntrllr)

34: None 00.0 1070 WLAN
 Unique ID: AYEt.blabla
 Parent ID: y9sn.blabla
 SysFS ID: /class/net/wlan0
 Hw Class: network interface
 Driver: "brcmsmac"
 Driver Modules: "brcmsmac"
 Device File: wlan0
 HW Address: 00:21:blabla:ab
 Link detected: no
 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
 Attached to: #22 (Network cntrllr)

# -- QUESTION remains:

Conecting to WIRED internet works fine, BUT:

how do i connect WIRELESS wlan using (only terminal) commands ?

must i set wpa_supplicant commandline ?

I am very familiar with terminal and vi.

Thanks for your assistance!

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#5

Never tried working with WLAN in command line only, but googling for "ubuntu wlan command line" brings up a lot of hits, among others

http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#Using_the_command_Line

Maybe one of them works for you.

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Wim (launchpad-xs4all) said :
#6

after installing with
sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant dhcp3-client network-manager nm-tools xorg
the solid state space was almost full;

During installing xfce4-session came the error "no-space left"
so no working space remained.

Conclusion of this project:
2 Gb total disk space is not enough to create a workable environment.
It was use trying.

Thanks for all your help!

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Best Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#7

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements states for Ubuntu Desktop edition (including Xubuntu and Lubuntu) 5 GB, Ubuntu netbook edition 4 GB, and just for the Ubuntu Server installation (CLI) just 1 GB of hard drive space as minimum.
It seems that you indeed were going past the limits of your SSD with installing xorg.

You might try going back to a server installation (without xorg, but just CLI) and use command line browsers like lynx to access resources on the network.

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Wim (launchpad-xs4all) said :
#8

Andrew and Manfred:

many thanks for your suggestions. It seems that 2 Gb install space is too small for my wishes:
i want to create a simple xUbuntu-system, which i want to use for assistance in houses of other people, so everytime i use IR, Bluetooth or WLAN to connect to internet and their printers, etc.

i tried CLI-installation and some command-line programs suitable for doing this; but either the 2 Gb is (almost) full, or the set of programs i want does not fit in the 2 Gb.

I leave this question open until march 20th; then i will close this question.
It was worth trying. And again: thanks for your help! Typical opensource guys.

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Wim (launchpad-xs4all) said :
#9

Thanks Manfred Hampl, that solved my question.