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How annoyed do you think people will be

Asked by actionparsnip

As all the users upgrade to Raring not knowing it is only supported til January 2014.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases

Makes no sense to upgrade imho.

What do you guys think.

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Mark Rijckenberg (markrijckenberg) said : 		#1

It only makes sense for people with hardware that is so cutting edge that it requires a kernel version >= 3.8 in order to work properly.... That's my humble opinion. Others should probably stick with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.

I have noticed that certain custom python scripts that used to work fine in Ubuntu 12.10, do not work anymore in Ubuntu 13.04.

I installed Ubuntu 13.04 just to be able to recreate (and maybe solve) any issues that might be experienced by others (that use Ubuntu 13.04) on this forum.

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srikumar (ssrikumar) said : 		#2

If the past is anything to go by - then 13.04 will be followed by 13.10 LTS.
In my personal opinion, it is best to keep up with the changes on an incremental basis so that there no great change in the learning curve.
as a fmous poet said : the past gives birther to the new .....

good luck, I am grateful to the Ubuntu Team for keeping us up-to-date.

Thank you
srikumar

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Best Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said : 		#3

@actionparsnip:
you have the choice between
- the LTS release, where you do not need to care about release upgrades for 2 years, and
- the 'cutting edge' normal release, that requires a release upgrade once every 6 months.

For me it does not make any difference whether 13.04 is supported for 7 months, or for 18. Once you are on 13.04 you have to follow the upgrade path to 13.10 and 14.04.
That now - in deviation from the previous practice - the support period for the current normal release has been cut down to 9 months (instead of the previous 18 months), just forces all users of 13.04 to upgrade to 13.10 already in last quarter of 2013, without the possibility to postpone that upgrade until the next next release has come out.

Then new EOL strategy reduces the number of different versions supported at the same time. There is just the inconsistency, that the EOL date for quantal is April 2014, and for Raring it is January 2014. For me it is not clear how an upgrade from quantal should be done after January 2014 (at that moment 12.10 is still supported, but the next release 13.04 is no more).

I think the main problem was introduced already in October 2012. At the moment that quantal was published it should have been made clear, that for ordinany end users the recommendation must be to stay on the LTS release, and only experienced users with the need for the newest versions should use the normal releases.

@srikumar:
If you look at the past developments you should see that 14.04 is going to be the next LTS, not 13.10.
see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases the LTS releases are the ones with even year number + 04

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Daniel Letzeisen (dtl131) said : 		#5

Those people will not be nearly as annoyed as I am when someone asks for support and they're using a release that was EOL a year ago... (which happens even with 18 months of support) ;)

Personally, I feel Ubuntu should go the rolling release route. Technically, one can do that by always running the development release, but it's not nearly as stable as other rolling releases (Arch, Debian sid, opensuse Tumbleweed).

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said : 		#6

srikumar, 13.10 wll not be LTS, LTS is every 2 years so the next LTS is 14.04

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said : 		#7

Thanks Manfred Hampl, that solved my question.