Error message Permission denied when trying to install dual windows/ubuntu system

I wonder if you have the wrong install disk?

The page you point to is about the WUBI install. That is an install INSIDE Windows, rather than a dual boot install.

Look at this page instead: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download

Hi,

Apologies, I think that I gave you the wrong info. I thought that the system
I was putting on would allow ubuntu to run from within windows. I now think
that the terminology of "dual" is incorrect.

Please advise if this is so.

Thanks
Roger

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I wonder if you have the wrong install disk?

The page you point to is about the WUBI install. That is an install
INSIDE Windows, rather than a dual boot install.

Look at this page instead:
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download

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Did you right click the file and select 'run as admin'?

Wubi installs Ubuntu 'within' windows, but Ubuntu runs as a dual boot (with a virtual partition). If you want to run Ubuntu within Windows you need to install it in a virtual machine.

You didn't specify enough detail on the error you are getting. If it was an error with F:\wubildr or something similar then it's bug 862003 (which means the install is actually successful - just reboot to complete). If it's something else, you need to specify what it is - best way is to go to the %TEMP% directory, open the file wubi-11.10-rev245.log and copy it to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ and then return here with the pastebin address.

Thanks

I think this is the link that you are after.
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/932386/

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bcbc proposed the following answer:
Wubi installs Ubuntu 'within' windows, but Ubuntu runs as a dual boot
(with a virtual partition). If you want to run Ubuntu within Windows you
need to install it in a virtual machine.

You didn't specify enough detail on the error you are getting. If it was
an error with F:\wubildr or something similar then it's bug 862003
(which means the install is actually successful - just reboot to
complete). If it's something else, you need to specify what it is - best
way is to go to the %TEMP% directory, open the file
wubi-11.10-rev245.log and copy it to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ and
then return here with the pastebin address.

Thanks

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I just double clicked on the icon. Just went through the default install.

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Did you right click the file and select 'run as admin'?

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I suggest you download the Precise ISO, mount it in Windows using Magicdick or Daemontools and run Wubi from there.

Remember this is the first time that I have even seen ubuntu or Linux, let
alone used it. Is there a step by step version of these instructions on the
net? How do I mount something in windows?

Please forgive my ignorance

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I suggest you download the Precise ISO, mount it in Windows using
Magicdick or Daemontools and run Wubi from there.

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You mount in Windows using magicdisk or daemontools....as I said.

I don't advise you to install Precise 12.04. It's in beta. They've disabled wubi installation from the CD in 12.04 anyway so using magicdisk won't work (and it's unnecessary anyway - since it involves an additional step to install software).

You are getting bug 862003. So just install again, and then reboot to complete.

I restarted the PC and still don't have access to Ubuntu as with bug 862003.

I didn't exactly understand what you meant. I downloaded
ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386 and burnt it to CD as ISO using CDBurnerXP. I ran
the disc and it said that it had installed successfully however I can't get
it to run. I expect that it should sit in the All programs list on windows
start menu. Is this right? I can't see anywhere else that I can get it to
run.

I am starting to wonder if ubuntu is worth the hassle. Why is this being so
difficult? Am I too dumb to run Ubuntu?

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bcbc proposed the following answer:
I don't advise you to install Precise 12.04. It's in beta. They've
disabled wubi installation from the CD in 12.04 anyway so using
magicdisk won't work (and it's unnecessary anyway - since it involves an
additional step to install software).

You are getting bug 862003. So just install again, and then reboot to
complete.

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You uninstalled after getting bug 862003. This bug only happens when wubi.exe is run standalone, not when you run from a CD.

When you install with Wubi, it doesn't add an entry to All Programs... Ubuntu runs as a dual boot, which means you either boot Windows or Ubuntu. Only the install/uninstall runs in Windows. The only way to run Ubuntu from within Windows is as a virtual machine.

The only difference between Wubi and a normal Ubuntu install is that Wubi doesn't partition your computer. If you can partition, then installing normally is better. Wubi is designed to try out Ubuntu.

Okay, so regarding your problem now:
1. you installed successfully from CD
2. you rebooted and it booted Windows with no option to boot Ubuntu
This means that Ubuntu is either not in your \boot.ini or the timeout (Time to display operating systems) is set at 0. Sometimes Wubi is prevented from modifying this.
To check:
Right click, My Computer, Properties, Advanced tab, Startup & Recovery settings.... check the Time to display operating systems is 10. You should also see an Ubuntu entry in the 'Default operating system' drop down box (but always leave Windows as the default).

O.K. I changed the \boot.ini to 10. When I boot up I get the ubuntu option.
After selecting it the CDRom makes a noise like the CD is out of balance or
something. Then I get the following error,

Try (hd0,0): NTFS error: "prefix" is not set.
Error: no such device: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk.

And then it progresses to...

Minimal BASH like line editing is supported. For the first word TAB lists
possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or
file completions.
Grub>

Now... I thank you for your patience however this will be the last chance. I
was told how much better Ubuntu would be and after a whole lot of effort I
still can't use it. At this point it is difficult to believe that it is
better. Even windows doesn't give me this amount of grief.

What do you suggest?

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bcbc proposed the following answer:
You uninstalled after getting bug 862003. This bug only happens when
wubi.exe is run standalone, not when you run from a CD.

When you install with Wubi, it doesn't add an entry to All Programs...
Ubuntu runs as a dual boot, which means you either boot Windows or
Ubuntu. Only the install/uninstall runs in Windows. The only way to run
Ubuntu from within Windows is as a virtual machine.

The only difference between Wubi and a normal Ubuntu install is that
Wubi doesn't partition your computer. If you can partition, then
installing normally is better. Wubi is designed to try out Ubuntu.

Okay, so regarding your problem now:
1. you installed successfully from CD
2. you rebooted and it booted Windows with no option to boot Ubuntu
This means that Ubuntu is either not in your \boot.ini or the timeout (Time
to display operating systems) is set at 0. Sometimes Wubi is prevented from
modifying this.
To check:
Right click, My Computer, Properties, Advanced tab, Startup & Recovery
settings.... check the Time to display operating systems is 10. You should
also see an Ubuntu entry in the 'Default operating system' drop down box
(but always leave Windows as the default).

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Insert the Ubuntu CD, override your BIOS boot options to boot from CD. Select "Try Ubuntu" (this runs Ubuntu from the CD without installing or modifying anything).

What this does is:
1. Makes sure Ubuntu is compatible with your hardware.
2. Now you can check out your hard drive

A nice diagnostic is to run the bootinfoscript ( http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ ) - you can pastebin the results.

Opinion
======
Wubi is designed to 'try out Ubuntu' easily without partitioning. It does do this for the most part, but every now and then there are issues. But when the 'easy' part is no longer there, and since you're sitting on 700GB of free disk space, you might want to instead partition and install Ubuntu.
So trying out Ubuntu, and checking the drive characteristics is a good preparation step and I'll review the info for you.

Installing an OS isn't always smooth sailing. I find installing Windows a lot harder - in addition to the DVD you need the device drivers for all your hardware or else nothing is going to work - whereas Ubuntu gets 95% working from a CD. But there are some things that cause issues. Here are a few:
1. partition table errors - sometimes these are minor and don't affect Windows, but Ubuntu (actually the linux utilities are more cautious and kick out errors)
2. fakeraid (some of these aren't well supported)
3. certain graphics cards where the manufacturers won't share the details (Ubuntu uses open-source and if the card requires a closed-source driver, it might need some tweaking on first boot)
4. In addition, since Wubi uses a virtual disk that sits on the NTFS partition, there may be some other issues there.

Wahoo,
I can run Ubuntu!!! I haven't run the bootinfoscript yet however I can see a
working version of ubuntu. I am impressed that it can pick up my internet
connection without adding any data like password or connection name.

Thanks for persevering with this problem. I will now get to know how it
works and evaluate how well it works for me.

Thank you so much.

Roger Dodger

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bcbc posted a new comment:
Insert the Ubuntu CD, override your BIOS boot options to boot from CD.
Select "Try Ubuntu" (this runs Ubuntu from the CD without installing or
modifying anything).

What this does is:
1. Makes sure Ubuntu is compatible with your hardware.
2. Now you can check out your hard drive

A nice diagnostic is to run the bootinfoscript (
http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ ) - you can pastebin the results.

Opinion
======
Wubi is designed to 'try out Ubuntu' easily without partitioning. It does do
this for the most part, but every now and then there are issues. But when
the 'easy' part is no longer there, and since you're sitting on 700GB of
free disk space, you might want to instead partition and install Ubuntu.
So trying out Ubuntu, and checking the drive characteristics is a good
preparation step and I'll review the info for you.

Installing an OS isn't always smooth sailing. I find installing Windows a
lot harder - in addition to the DVD you need the device drivers for all
your hardware or else nothing is going to work - whereas Ubuntu gets 95%
working from a CD. But there are some things that cause issues. Here are a
few:
1. partition table errors - sometimes these are minor and don't affect
Windows, but Ubuntu (actually the linux utilities are more cautious and kick
out errors)
2. fakeraid (some of these aren't well supported)
3. certain graphics cards where the manufacturers won't share the details
(Ubuntu uses open-source and if the card requires a closed-source driver, it
might need some tweaking on first boot)
4. In addition, since Wubi uses a virtual disk that sits on the NTFS
partition, there may be some other issues there.

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