Stuck on Stage2

Asked by NavyRSt

I have installed ubuntu in the following forms: ubuntu 7.04; ubuntu 7.10; kubuntu 7.10; and finally kubuntu 7.10 altCD. I have recieved the same performance (with the exception of two times in ubuntu 7.04 when it ran with the superGrub disk). Maybe you guys can help?

Here is what happens after a fresh install. If I don't run anything at all it just restarts on it's own, I can't even see if it's getting to stage1.5 or not.
If I run the liveCD and have it boot from the first disk I get this:
[Quote]Booting from local disk...
GRUB Loading stage1.5.

Grub loading, please wait...
_[/quote]
If I run GAG or superGRUB:
[quote]Loading Stage2...
_[/quote]
I don't know how long I'm SUPPOSED to wait for, but I've had both of those sitting on my screen in exess of 30 minutes on MORE than one occasion waiting for something to happen. Sure, I've heard little ticks here and there, from the computer, for about the first 5 minutes on either startup. But, after that I get nothing, and no amount of *ctrl+alt+F1234567890* changes anything. In fact, I"ll get beeps after F10.

Any ideas? I would really like to able to use some form of ubuntu.

Thanks,
Brett

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
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The computer is a 600 MHz PIII, I think the motherboard is a Tyan 1854 trinity???
524Mb of RAM, three HDDs one 16 Gig IDE, one 25 Gig IDE, and one 17 Gig SCSI

There isn't ANY other operating system on the computer at all.

I've tried installing everytime as all on one HDD. I've tried all three of the HDDs. There is no difference in the output.

I'll try to answer any questions I can.

Thanks,
Brett

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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From Ubuntu 7.10 install cd menu : try to check your ram for defect...
then
try to put your bios to default setting...

Hope this helps

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#3

Try common install boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
#4

I've done a memtest. Over night, in fact. Everything checked out good.

But, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by putting the "bios to default setting."

Is that EVERYTHING back to default on the chipset bios?

As far as boot options go. I understand that with regular ubuntu 7.04 (feisty) I had to delete "quietsplash" and add "noacpi" in order for the liveCD to run properly, otherwise I would end up staring at a dead computer. But, with kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that wouldn't happen when running the liveCD.

Would you suggest that I need to edit the menu.lst to have "noacpi" in it somewhere?

If so, where?

Thank you for this info, this has been the best info yet.

Brett

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
#5

BTW, this hasn't solved it yet, but it's getting there.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#6

This https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
is a clear how to setting livecd boot parameters
Booting form live cd at Ubuntu install menu press F6 function key and edit the kernel boot paramaters
delete "quit" and "splash" option and add the "noacpi" parameter

Hope This Helps

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
#7

Right, I've got the F6 function, for the liveCD everything runs just fine.

It's when I'm booting off the HD is where I have the problems.

I've checked out the menu.lst and found the "#kopt=" there is already something written there.
Specifically:

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

Should I type in "=no acpi" after tty0?

Also, I have 3 HDD's. Can I put swap on one, and then the other two types on the other two HDD's? What types are they? I know that I need a ext3, do I need a ext2? Which do I need for the disk that boots?

Sorry for the extra questions and thank you for answering so quickly.

Brett

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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Please try:
xenkopt=console=tty0 noacpi

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
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I haven't been able to find a way to properly edit the menu.lst yet.

If I try the "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst", then it just comes up with a blank screen saying that it's a new file. But, I know that it's there because I can read it from the file system.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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From a terminal try:

ls -la /boot/grub/

copy and paste result here

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
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ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls -la /boot/grub/
ls: /boot/grub/: No such file or directory

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#12

I supposed you are working with live cd, so to change your existent menu.lst on your hard-disk you must mount your hard disk partition from live Ubuntu cd and then change the file from terminal

Try to discover if your etx3 partitition is already mounted, open a terminal and type

mount

try to discover your ext3 partition mount point then edit with

sudo nano /..../etc/boot/menu.lst

HTH

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
#13

Well, the mount text helped tons, that's going on the note pad for sure.

But, as I did this I realized that there were some lingerings of DSL and other ubuntus in the several hard drives. Even though I had done fresh installs of ubuntu afterwards, there was still coding in the menu.lst specifically "quiet" after ubuntu kernals and tons of coding afterwards to run DSL, but nothing to the effect of the chainloader, ect.

So, obviously my menu.lst was jacked and I don't have the knowledge to fix that. So, I've reformated all the drives with a dos bootdisk to ensure that all linux info was gone and I'll start a new install tonight.

If this, or the following of editing the menu file works I'll let you know and set the question as solved.

Thanks,
Brett

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
#14

OK, I've reinstalled xubuntu, ensured that the grub was installed to the mbr, edited the menu.lst and restarted the computer. No dice, same action is happening with all different "fixes".

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Brett

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NavyRSt (brett-midnightmotorsports-va) said :
#15

Here is the solution to my problem:
The computer thought that the first hard drive was the primary master IDE drive, but ubuntu was thinking it was the SCSI drive. So, ubuntu was loading grub to the MBR of the SCSI and the computer was booting off the primary master IDE drive. I just changed around the bios settings to boot off the SCSI and everything is running fine!