Is this a Bug?

Asked by litlblob

My Machine was running fine on 7.04. The up date asked if I wanted to upgrade to 7.10 and I said yes. It seemed to be fine but then would not re-boot. A CD copy of 7.10 that had loaded on another machine fine stalled on loading. I re-loaded 7.04 and it starts fine. A second try of the CD 7.10 locked up at about the same point. I then tried with splash off and wrote down the screen when it stalled. That copy is at another site, but I would be happy to get it to anyone who wants it or would be even happier to work with someone to verify the conditions on this machine.....I started into linux to be able to work/learn this 'stuff' rather than just close and re-open the window.

P.S. From memory (It's also on the sheet at the other office) is a pentium III 550 Hz 512 Memory.

Thanks Larry T.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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Have you tried alternate Ubuntu 7.10 install cd: ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
It might not have any graphics issue.
get it from http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/

HTH

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#2

I tried to enter the 'phrase' after cd: by deleting the 'cannec' line and replacing it with the 'ubuntu....iso' and it would not find it on the CD for 7.10 that I got from our local clinic. I next tried to run from the install menu the second line of graphics safe and got the same stall point that I did before. I will start the computer that has a burner and try to download and burn releases.ubuntu/7.10. I guess that to speed up/simplify things, no response needed if this is the next/correct step.

Thanks Larry T.

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#3

It took most of the afternoon (at least my free time of the afternoon), as I had a little connection problem. By evening I had downloaded it, moved it to the computer with a 'burner' and burned the copy. I let it load over night and today it re-started but stalled at about the same bar-graph point. Tonight I'll probably have time to re-boot and see if I can get to the no-splash command and read the commands it processes, but I'm not real hopeful that we have a solution yet.

Thanks Larry T.

P.S. I just put the hand written copy out to take home so that I can compare it.

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#4

Latest news: Yup, it stalls. When offered 'esc' to get to a menu, I took it and the menu is different than the first 7.10 loader. It offers a 7.10; a 7.10 recovery and a memory test. There is also an edit command at the bottom. I tried to edit the first command and erased the echo or what ever was the last line. Booted and nothing changed. I then tried recovery and got to a root prompt where boot was not recognized but the command reboot went back to an Ubuntu screen with the progress bar that stalls at about the same point.

1) Any other ways or things to check?

2) When we get it working will we know that whatever caused the loading problem won't affect other programs?

Thanks Larry T.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#5

I'm quite confused plese tell us if:
a) Do you want install Ubuntu 7.10 with a live cd and it don't start...?
b) Do you want dist-upgrade your Ubuntu 7.04...?
c) Are you in trouble with the startup of the installed 7.04 or you have just installed 7.10...?

Thank you

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#6

7.04 was on the machine and running fine. The up date icon in the upper tray said there were updates and I clickled on it and the popup said there was an up grade to 7.10 available. As the clinic I was just at had offered any of us a live CD of 7.10 and I had loaded it on the machine I had at the clinic (my #3 machine) and it worked well, I clicked on the upgrade to 7.10 rather than the update of 7.04. That on line upgrade stalled and I could not get anything or anywhere. I then tried to use the 7.10 CD that had previously worked and it stalled.

I would like to get 7.10 on this box and neither the CD of 7.10 from the clinic nor the CD I burned from your directions for alternate 7.10 work. I have every confidence that IF I were to re-load 7.04 it would complete loading and run (a step I tried bdfore asking for help here).

The box is an Intel Pentium III 550E. It has 524288 K of memory that checks OK on booting and I checked the cd from the clinic and the boot loader said it was also OK.

Hope this helps. Thanks Larry T.

P.S. I'm working this weekend and will not be back to thie problam box until Sunday P.M. but will try to check my E-Mail tonight while working on box #3 as long as the motel has internet access..

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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a) Obviously if Ubuntu 7.04 was working reinstall 7.04 must work on that pc, but give 7.10 a chance

b) If you don't have any relevant data on old Ubuntu 7.04 and the pc don't have any Windows (dual boot mode) on it i think install Ubuntu 7.10 by select use "entire disk" is the quick and easy way.

If Ubuntu 7.10 live cd don't start please verify the Ubuntu 7.10 live install cd from the destination pc.
1 - Boot from Live Ubuntu 7.10 pc at first menu press the item "Check cd for defect"
2 - Press F6: edit the kernel parameter row:
     Remove "splash" and "quiet" parameters
     and try kernel boot options https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
     parameters to make your kernel going into different working startup state

If you have to save some important data please tell us.

HTH

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#8

Before I started posting to this site, I did that. The CD Checked O.K., and without the slpash and quiet parameters, I wrote the screen when it stalled; offering it in my first post if it would help. From that screen information can you or one of the other people that it appears are seeing copies of our 'chats' cut down the re-starts with the parameters/adjustments contained in the BootOptions page? maybe you or they are able to interpret why it is stalling where it is. I ask that because with the available time I have to work on this, it will take me a while to try each of those and then re-start when it continues to fail.

Just for clear communication: the adjusted 7.10 loads to the hard drive and then stalls on the re-boot (Boot from hard drive) and the recovery option (from the esc key) only eliminates the echo and ends in a root prompt. reboot command than gets the Ubuntu screen and progress bar that stalles at approx. 70%.

Thanks Larry T.

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#9

Well an update: I was slightly dyslic and actually entered apci on the first 6 tries. As there was some difference, I'll include the changes as it may show up what is the problem. All entries are for the CD from our local help clinic that did load properly on another machine and that checked O.K. when asked.

apci=off loads one more line for cupsd
noapci No change
apci=force also loads one more line for cupsd
pci=noapci loads one more line for cupsd
apaci=noirq loads the cupsd line and then the curser is at the mid point of the remaining line space rather than at the Rt. corner of the screen

pci=apci No change

acpi=off No change
noapci loads the cupsd line
acpi=force loads the cupsd line
pci=noacpi loads the cupsd line
acpi=noirq No change
pci=acpi Loads the cupsd line

In no case does it load past the cupsd line

Attepmting to add the first line to the menu of the alternate 7.10 on the hard drive then re-booted and there was no way I could be sure the line was still in there so, I didn't try any more of them.

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#10

Well, Maybe This Is Success! apci=ht allowed the install screen to come up. I decided to load it on 1/2 (54%) of the dirve which should leave 7.04 on the front part? and available if needed?

I still would like to know the full impact on other things without apci.

I'll post or click on problem solved in a few days if all goes well with 7.10 (Which I'll use until there is a problem).

Thanks for now. Larry T.

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litlblob (litlblob) said :
#11

Wooppps As I was loading up this morning, I realized I had loaded 7.04 a second time. I was not using the problem 7.10.

No one is sorrier than I am.

Tonight maybe I'll have time to try 7.10 with the acpi=ht option.
Now, I don't remember whether it's acpi or apci but my list sheet is right.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#12

litblob,

acpi=ht

HTH

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