Cannot run network with graphics card

Asked by imsati

A few weeks ago, I obtained a new MoBo (ECS 945GZT-M) and Ubuntu stopped working. Upon trying to reinstall it, the X-server wouldn't start from the Live CD. The only thing different from my old board was the PCI-E slot. My old board was x16 and this one is at x4. Well, I experimented with some other MoBo's (both with full x16 speeds) and the Live CD booted right up. On a whim, I tried the ECS board again and the Live CD worked. Unfortunately in the process, I fried my spare HDD I decided to keep the ECS since I really didn't need all the features the other boards offered, and since Ubuntu was now apparently working, it would be fine. ...

Fast forward to this morning. My new HDD arrived and I installed it right away and booted up the 7.04 i386 Live CD. It loaded up find and installed to the HDD perfectly. Zero issues whatsoever. Upon completion, I rebooted and loaded up Ubuntu. It would load normally until the very end, at which point the status bar would freeze for about 20 seconds and then move to a terminal-like display with the following:

*Mounting local filesystems
*Activating Swapfile swap
*Configuring network interfaces
*Loadind ACPI modules
*Starting ACPI services
*Starting system log daemon
*Doing Wacom setup
*Starting kernel log
*Starting system message bus dbus
*Starting hardware abstraction layer hald

After the last line, the system would hang for 2-3 minutes, then more code would pop up too fast to copy. After, the background to the Splash screen appears, but it's about 20 seconds before the Login appears.

After I'm logged in, the system itself is incredibly slow. I'm not able to enable the Nvidia driver, the system does not detect any updates, and when I use Terminal or Update Manager, it tells me that the repositories don't exist. Synaptic shows nothing detected as upgrades either. Loading up Feisty 64-bit, it also installs perfectly (although at a lower resolution) but once everything is loaded and restarted, the same as the i386--no upgrades, Nvidia, etc.

I went into BIOS and looked at the PCI Settings. My options are to either use on-board VGA adapter (which works perfectly, actually, but why have a video card if you can't use it?), PCI x16(which does not run at x16), or PCI x4.

I'm completely stumped now. I still have the other MoBo's ready to be shipped out. As I mentioned above, I'd prefer to keep the ECS, but will use the Abit IL9 Pro (which has a PCI-E running at full x16 speed) if necessary. Is this as simple as a PCI-E slot running at x4 speed or something else? The video card is an e-GeForce 7100 GS and worked perfectly with my previous Abit IP-95 Board, and currently works perfectly with XP.

This is the error that I get when trying to enable the Nvidia restricted Driver, thus leading me to believe it could be an ethernet connection problem:

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/poo...-14.8_i386.deb
Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'

Any and all suggestions would be great! Thanks so much!

--Jay

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imsati (imsati) said :
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Oh, I should add that the IP-95 Board's PCI-E slot was also running at x16. Not sure if that will help any, but the x16 vs x4 speed does seem to be the only variable between everything.

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David Portwood (dzportwood) said :
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Yes, all your problems revolve around you having no internet connectivity, could you verify your ethernet connection is enabled? also post the output of 'ifconfig' issued from terminal.

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imsati (imsati) said :
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I'll post the results of ifconfig below. I should point out, however, that earlier today, I took out the video card from the PCI-E slot, and used the on-board graphic port to successfully install 7.04 without any problems. I also had full access to every system after doing so, internet included, and was able to apply every update available for my current software setup. I shut the system down and put the PCI-E card back in for a Windows session. A few moments ago, I shut down XP and loaded into 7.04 (without taking out the PCI-E card again as I did before) and it would load, but the X-Server would not start. I logged in through command line and have the info below.

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet Hwaddr 00:19:21:85:27:47
       UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
       RX Packets: 0 errors: 0 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 frame: 0
       TX Packets: 0 errors: 0 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 carriers: 0
       collisions: 0 txqueuelen: 1000
       RX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) TX bytes: 0 (0.0. b)

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
       inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask: 225.0.0.0
       UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
       RX Packets: 0 errors: 0 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 frame: 0
       TX Packets: 0 errors: 0 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 carriers: 0
       collisions: 0 txqueuelen: 1000
       RX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) TX bytes: 0 (0.0. b)

I'm going to set up the Abit Board I have right now and make sure my exact hardware configuration as it is now is mirrored on that Board, then do an install and see how it goes.

--Jason

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imsati (imsati) said :
#4

All my physical internet hardware is working, as I'm able to log on via XP and my wife's computers. I'm a bit sad to say that while I am very adept with the hardware aspects of networking, the actual software aspect is a bit of a mystery to me, and I have limited experience with subnets and masks and such. From looking at the networking options on the previous install, everything *appeared* to be working, but I could get no signal.

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David Portwood (dzportwood) said :
#5

Changing to many variables at once is a bad thing, when you rebooted into the system with onboard video and internet was working, at console install the video drivers for your other card with: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
then reboot and install your card, then proceed to run the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", select the driver "nvidia", continue the process, then reboot, X should start this time, then we can troubleshoot your ethernet connection.

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imsati (imsati) said :
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Well I just tried your suggestion. I installed via on-board VGA, manually installed the Nvidia-glx driver, then shut down, installed PCI-E card, and rebooted. Naturallu, X needed to be configured, so I went through the process, rebooted again, and nothing. I tried it again, and still nothing. Here's what's going on thus far...

Scenario 1: I install while video card (at x16 speed) is in PCI-E slot (at x4 speed). The end result is an otherwise perfect install, except no internet/networking, and no accelerated graphics (Open GL screensavers) due to Nvidia driver not installed. Movies play great though with excellent resolution.

Scenario 2: I install while using on-board VGA with the video card removed from the PCI-E slot. The end result is an install that has full internet/networking capabilities, but no accelerated graphics, and video settings are a bit off (too bright, a bit jumpy, not fluid at all while moving the window).

The only variable here is the PCI-E card/slot. Incidentaly, everything works perfectly on the Abit board I have. Video card installed and loads right up, installs much quicker than the ECS board does, and not a single problem with network/accelerated graphics. The only thing not working with the Abit board is CPU scaling. If it would be easier to find a way to fix that, I'll just keep that board (was going to return it tomorrow) and be done with the ECS for good.

--Jay

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Glen (wyldcdn) said :
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Sounds like a hardware problem, not software. Have you gone through your bios to see if it has settings for which video to init first? Is it assigning an irq to video? Is it set to shadow video bios? Did you go to the plug n play section and tell it to reset the configuration after you installed the video card? Not a plug n play OS setting? That is not the reset your bios option, only the plug n play settings.
I would try disable irq, no shadow, not plug n play and reset.

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imsati (imsati) said :
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'Tried all of those but nothing. I RMAd the board and will ship it back today or tomorrow. Really the only thing the Board had going for it was super cool temps, but after everything negative I can say about this board, I'm wondering if their accurate.

I'm going to try the IL9 Pro again and see if I can work out the CPU Scaling. If I can, then I'll get a new case to help keep the temps low (it runs a bit hotter in my current case) or buy an Abit IP-95 off of ebay ($55 shipped and it's my old Board, so I know it works).

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Wrwrwr (wrwrwr) said :
#9

You could also try some tricks to work around some hardware problems, like disabling the advanced interrupt controller by adding 'noapic' to the kernel options (in grub). Anyway, check in /proc/interrupts if you graphics and internet cards don't land on the same irq line.

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mikey683 (mikey683) said :
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I would also say that I have a Dell dimention 2400 that has it's graphics card integrated into the mother board. I don't have a driver installed for the old card.

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