I have no clue about what is being presented

Asked by steverussell on 2007-08-29

I cannot load ubuntu on a windows based machine. I click on start.exe and it cannot load the file. What do I do. I have read the pages outlined here and have no clue what your talking about??

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Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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steverussell (steverussell2) said : #1

thank you for at least acknowledging the question. I look forward to an
answer.
steve
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Subject: [Question #12460]: I have no clue about what is being presented

New question #12460 on Seveas' Packages:
https://answers.launchpad.net/seveas-packages/+question/12460

I cannot load ubuntu on a windows based machine. I click on start.exe and it
cannot load the file. What do I do. I have read the pages outlined here and
have no clue what your talking about??

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steverussell (steverussell2) said : #2

Sir
    I have spent better part of 2 days trying to load ubuntu on my desktop
and get rid of windows. I have not succeeded. I click on start, a black
window come up and then disappears. I have downloaded ubuntu, expecting to
be able to load the op system, so far to no avail. I see packages loaded
inside the op system ,but only see printing and no exec. files.This is
really getting old. I did not expect to have this much trouble with this
system. I can load into vmserver, but cant load on my desktop.I have no
support and get emails, with no answers. I,m not trying to be nasty, but so
far have gotten no help. I do not know what to do. If I can load on
vmserver, why not windows????
respectfully submitted???
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Your question #12460 on Ubuntu changed:
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I'm not sure I understand what it is you're trying to do. In order to boot Ubuntu, you need to have the cd in your drive and reboot the machine. It should boot automatically.

steverussell (steverussell2) said : #4

I downloaded the ubuntu file from the internet, and tried to run it that
way. If you need the cd , why have the file to downlaod???This is really
funny, no one said you had to have a cd to run the program. Is the cd free
?? and where do you purchase it from??? I didn't need a cd to run the
program on vmware. Very interesting.
steve
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Your question #12460 on Ubuntu changed:
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I'm not sure I understand what it is you're trying to do. In order to
boot Ubuntu, you need to have the cd in your drive and reboot the
machine. It should boot automatically.

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steverussell (steverussell2) said : #5

Ms Schinstad
    No one ever mentioned a cd was required. It doesnt state that on the
ubuntu website and if that is so, why have a download for the fileL?? It
doesnt make any sense?? And if the cd is required, why hasnt anyone made
that comment in regards to the question I asked???

respectfully
steverussell
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Your question #12460 on Ubuntu changed:
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Jo-Erlend Schinstad requested for more information:
I'm not sure I understand what it is you're trying to do. In order to
boot Ubuntu, you need to have the cd in your drive and reboot the
machine. It should boot automatically.

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Ubuntu is not a normal application. It is an operating system that is used to run applications. When you used VMWare, you used the image to pretend you had a cd in the virtual cd-rom drive. The file you downloaded, called an image file, contains all the information you need in order to burn the cd yourself. It would not be enough to simply write all the files from the cdrom to another cdrom, because it needs to be bootable. The general reason why people don't get the answers they need, is that they didn't ask the right question. Good luck! :)

steverussell (steverussell2) said : #7

Hello
    First,I thought I was very specific in what information I put in my question, and secondly, after much consternation, I have successfully loaded and am now using ubuntu on my desktop using email and internet. I personally think that the answering of questions take a long time but I appreciate your efforts. Considering how far I have gotten with what little was put out on the website, I pity the person who tries to load this system on their computer. I have a friend , who is very computer savy and he is having trouble also. The ethernet setup was, to put it mildly, very difficult, and if your not computer savy, I think you will have a very difficult time. The only reason I have succeeded is because I found another website that had another file to download to make ubuntu windows compatible. I find the ubuntu website critically inaccurrate in what they tell you to do and answers of how to install this system. I received three emails from people , who
 apparently did not know what I was asking or had no answer . At the bottom of your explanation, you say that the file is meant to be burned to a cd, then why not, in heavens name state that on the website???????? If you try to load this op system on your computer, you spend a lot of time on someting that has no chance of working .If you download a program or file from a website, normally you can run the program and install it on your computer, without writing to a cd..If I could change your website, I would let the public know some critical suggestions that might save a lot of time, if I wanted this software to be even remotely mainstream.
      I know this email sounds very critical, but for the time I have spent on this, and what was given on the website, I find it very lacking. The only reason I have succeeded is because I wanted to do the project very badly, and I dont give up very easily. And I have had almost a BS degree in computer related courses. For the average person, this is very frustrating. In addition, I take issue with your statement"in general the reason people dont get the answers they need is that they didn't ask the right question", if what they are asking is being misconstrued and not thought out by the person answering the question. Or their not sure how to ask the question they want an answer to!!!!!!!!!. In addition, you can always ask for more elaboration on the issue at hand. In the emails I received there was never a request for more information.
     I really hope that ubunbtu becomes more mainstream, but if that is what the end result of your website is, then you ought to give people more information about how to load this op system. There is another file that helps to make this more compatible with ubuntu. You should also make this part of your website. I only wish this project success, as I personally like the software, or I wouldn't have spent all the time,,trouble, and frustration working on this project. Again this email is not meant to be eye or ear burning, but I felt compelled to spell out my feelings on the matter. Especially since I am typing at 4:30 am on saturday morning.
       I peronally wish you well in your endeavors and with the website, as I am just about finninshed with my install here. Take care and good luck to you.
Respectfully submitted
Steve Russell

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Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 2:59:36 AM
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Your question #12460 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/12460

    Status: Open => Answered

Jo-Erlend Schinstad proposed the following answer:
Ubuntu is not a normal application. It is an operating system that is
used to run applications. When you used VMWare, you used the image to
pretend you had a cd in the virtual cd-rom drive. The file you
downloaded, called an image file, contains all the information you need
in order to burn the cd yourself. It would not be enough to simply write
all the files from the cdrom to another cdrom, because it needs to be
bootable. The general reason why people don't get the answers they need,
is that they didn't ask the right question. Good luck! :)

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steverussell (steverussell2) said : #8

I have solved the problem of installation on a windows based unit. Suffice to say it was very difficult, for me personally, and time consuming. There is a procedure you have to go thru to accomplish loading on a windows based unit and there is another file you should have to make loading and installing go much easier.This is all I,m going to say , although I think I have solved a lot of problems. The ethernet setup, after all is loaded, is complicated. My networking background was essential and you have to know your isp settings to get ubuntu to work with the internet. Good luck to all

I have to repond to this, even though you've closed the thread. First of all, I'm a Mr, and not a Ms. :)

You keep talking about files and websites and Windows compatibility, but you never refer to anything in particular. Am I supposed to guess what you're talking about? Also, I'm not affiliated with Canonical and have nothing to do with their websites or ubuntu.com. I answer questions here, to the best of my abilities, because I can and because people need it. I have nothing to gain from it, except new knowledge and friendships. If you need quick response, you can always get customer support from Canonical. It doesn't cost that much. When you're asking help from volunteering helpers on the internet, it is your responsibility to write understandable questions; not the other way around. If people don't understand the question, they often don't respond at all.

There are lots of pages that tells you how to write a cd-rom from an image file. You probably didn't read the instructions properly. There are no Windows-based PCs. They only come with Windows pre-installed. Ubuntu is not, and will never be compatible with Windows. People in general doesn't want it to. Windows is a completely different system, even though the systems look somewhat similar.

As I told you previously, Ubuntu is not an application that you download and install in Windows. It replaces Windows completely. If you want to reinstall Windows, you also have to use a cd-rom. Ubuntu is actually alot easier in that you don't have to install it in order to use it.

Anyway. Good luck and have fun exploring Ubuntu.

steverussell (steverussell2) said : #10

Sir
  I am sure you did your best to give me assistance. There was a complete disconnect between how I ended up loading the os and the emails I got in regards to the questions I was asking. I,m not going to dispute with you what you thought and what I requested, since I now find that what I write to you gets instantly loaded on the website, and that is not being private to me. Suffice it to say, that the website give great detail in most things, but there is no where stated that you need to make a cd to install the os, which, is untrue, since I have loaded the os using another file, that I found after searching the internet in frustration. I certainly thank you for your efforts. If you didnt understand the question, then , maybe ask for restatement of what is not clear. I,m not going to get into a spitting match any longer. I did not mean to do that in the first place. I have loaded the os and gone to other things. I am grateful that you volunteer you
 time and efforts to help people. In my particular case, you were not successful. Time to move on. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Respectfully submitted
steve russell

myFrom: Jo-Erlend Schinstad <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2007 2:34:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Question #12460]: I have no clue about what is being presented

Your question #12460 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/12460

Jo-Erlend Schinstad posted a new comment:
I have to repond to this, even though you've closed the thread. First of
all, I'm a Mr, and not a Ms. :)

You keep talking about files and websites and Windows compatibility, but
you never refer to anything in particular. Am I supposed to guess what
you're talking about? Also, I'm not affiliated with Canonical and have
nothing to do with their websites or ubuntu.com. I answer questions
here, to the best of my abilities, because I can and because people need
it. I have nothing to gain from it, except new knowledge and
friendships. If you need quick response, you can always get customer
support from Canonical. It doesn't cost that much. When you're asking
help from volunteering helpers on the internet, it is your
responsibility to write understandable questions; not the other way
around. If people don't understand the question, they often don't
respond at all.

There are lots of pages that tells you how to write a cd-rom from an
image file. You probably didn't read the instructions properly. There
are no Windows-based PCs. They only come with Windows pre-installed.
Ubuntu is not, and will never be compatible with Windows. People in
general doesn't want it to. Windows is a completely different system,
even though the systems look somewhat similar.

As I told you previously, Ubuntu is not an application that you download
and install in Windows. It replaces Windows completely. If you want to
reinstall Windows, you also have to use a cd-rom. Ubuntu is actually
alot easier in that you don't have to install it in order to use it.

Anyway. Good luck and have fun exploring Ubuntu.

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steverussell (steverussell2) said : #11

Sir
    I did not fully read your email. My mistake. I was not trying to load your os in windows. Using another file, I created another virtual disk on the C: drive to load your os. I downloaded the file onto c: drive and then tried to open it. I was not trying to load in windows. There is another file that creates another virtual drive to load the os onto to create a dual boot when your computer boots up. That is how I loaded the os. I was under the impression that you download ubuntu and then open it and it will create its own virtual disk. That , obviously , is not true. Enough on the subject. Thank you and good day. Hope you have a good fall wherever you may be.
Respectfully
steve russell

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steverussell posted a new comment:
Sir
  I am sure you did your best to give me assistance. There was a complete disconnect between how I ended up loading the os and the emails I got in regards to the questions I was asking. I,m not going to dispute with you what you thought and what I requested, since I now find that what I write to you gets instantly loaded on the website, and that is not being private to me. Suffice it to say, that the website give great detail in most things, but there is no where stated that you need to make a cd to install the os, which, is untrue, since I have loaded the os using another file, that I found after searching the internet in frustration. I certainly thank you for your efforts. If you didnt understand the question, then , maybe ask for restatement of what is not clear. I,m not going to get into a spitting match any longer. I did not mean to do that in the first place. I have loaded the os and gone to other things. I am grateful that you volunteer you
time and efforts to help people. In my particular case, you were not successful. Time to move on. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Respectfully submitted
steve russell

myFrom: Jo-Erlend Schinstad <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2007 2:34:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Question #12460]: I have no clue about what is being presented

Your question #12460 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/12460

Jo-Erlend Schinstad posted a new comment:
I have to repond to this, even though you've closed the thread. First of
all, I'm a Mr, and not a Ms. :)

You keep talking about files and websites and Windows compatibility, but
you never refer to anything in particular. Am I supposed to guess what
you're talking about? Also, I'm not affiliated with Canonical and have
nothing to do with their websites or ubuntu.com. I answer questions
here, to the best of my abilities, because I can and because people need
it. I have nothing to gain from it, except new knowledge and
friendships. If you need quick response, you can always get customer
support from Canonical. It doesn't cost that much. When you're asking
help from volunteering helpers on the internet, it is your
responsibility to write understandable questions; not the other way
around. If people don't understand the question, they often don't
respond at all.

There are lots of pages that tells you how to write a cd-rom from an
image file. You probably didn't read the instructions properly. There
are no Windows-based PCs. They only come with Windows pre-installed.
Ubuntu is not, and will never be compatible with Windows. People in
general doesn't want it to. Windows is a completely different system,
even though the systems look somewhat similar.

As I told you previously, Ubuntu is not an application that you download
and install in Windows. It replaces Windows completely. If you want to
reinstall Windows, you also have to use a cd-rom. Ubuntu is actually
alot easier in that you don't have to install it in order to use it.

Anyway. Good luck and have fun exploring Ubuntu.

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