Visible display 1 cm on the right, the rendering is shaking and all the words and image are corrupt! Ubuntu 10.04!

Asked by Eugenio123

I just installed on my pc, ubuntu 10.04. It is not dual boot. me or the PC is an Athlon 2000 + to 1.6 ghz, 512 ram, ati radeon 9800SE 128 mb and I have a problem unsustainable graphics. whole screen is moved at least 1 cm on the right, shaking the entire screen, all parts in the display are "graphically corrupt" is indecent. 8.4 worked great on all the hours I'd say I regret bitterly.

I also tried to put any graphical effect, but nothing changes.

guys help me find a solution:)

thanks to you soon!

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
If you can, install openssh-server using terminal, use a wired connection for simplicity

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Tom (tom6) said :
#2

Hi :)

Please could you make an Ubuntu Cd or use an existing one to boot-up your machine. It should get you to a menu with "Try ubuntu without change to this machine". Choosing that option should get you to a fairly limited demo desktop
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD

I think the best plan is to revert back to 8.04 and then try to get some more ram. Ubuntu really needs at least 1Gb of ram. The rest of your machine is fine, very respectable specs :) It's just let down a little by the ram. If this is a laptop type machine then be very careful to make sure the ram speed is exactly right. Desktops are a lot more forgiving but laptops can be a bit fussy.

We could help move the /home to it's own separate partition which would make reinstalling a lot safer & easier
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving

Also we could help you trick the installer into not over-writing data that you might need to keep. If you go up to the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Synaptic - File - "Save markings as ..."
and then tick the box at the bottom of the dialogue box that says "Save all markings, not just selected" then that should give you a list of all the programs you have already installed so if things went wrong it would be fairly easy to quickly re-install all the same programs

Please let us know how this goes
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
#3

the iso is fine :)

Tommorow I will go to buy an other 256 mb extra ram for my desktop computer.

I tried with the live cd and the problem is the same, moreover it has the same problem with Karmic too!

but i really don't get the point to move the home partition and create a separate partition..it could really help??

moreover i found this bug that is similar to mine, especially he has the same graphics card the 9800SE, this is the link

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/565883

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Tom (tom6) said :
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Hi :)

Given the problems i think i would suggest trying a different version of linux, perhaps Mandriva, openSUSE, Fedora or something?
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandriva
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensuse
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora

While these other distros are also quite large and use up a lot of resources i think they might all be a lot lighter than Ubuntu which has a reputation for being the heaviest distro around.

An extra 256Mb of Ram is not really enough more. When buying ram the initial outlay is fairly large compared to the difference between sizes so going for a reasonably large amount of ram. The MIN.spec for Ubuntu is about 1Gb so you really need to end up with more than that to avoid needing to buy more within a year or so.

Alternatively you could install you could install the xubuntu desktop or lxde or e17 & switch off a lot of the services that you don't need at start up (i tend to do this anyway). There are other ways of reducing the amount of ram the system needs so try looking for how to do a minimal install. I think the main, quickest & most noticeable factor is the Desktop Environment so installing

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

and then switching to the Xfce session during the login should make a big difference.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
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hi guys!

now I have just bought an extra ram module, now is 1gb :) but the problem still remain on ubuntu LL, linux mint isadora rc, lubuntu!

the only one that works is opnesuse 11.2

now i'm trying with xubuntu...

so what's the problem?? all these distros have the same driver?

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#6

Hmmm interesting how SUSE works. Does it have an xorg.conf file?

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
#7

even fedora has the same problem.. :( anyway is better than lucid linx but the all the letters on the screen are corrupted.

i don't know if suse has that file but the versione that i tried it was a kde version, can help?

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
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even fedora has the same problem.. :( anyway is better than lucid linx but the all the letters on the screen are corrupted.

i don't know if suse has that file but the versione that i tried it was a kde version, can help?

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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does suse have an xorg.conf file?

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
#10

i just checked and the answer yes, it has xorg.conf

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#11

Awesome, copy that sucker to a removable disk and copy the file to the ubuntu system then reboot it. Should be ok.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#12

Hi ?

Have you got a multi-boot system with Ubuntu installed to your hard-drive as one of the options? If you haven't got Ubuntu installed yet then please do install it alongside whatever other Operating Systems you currently have installed
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
Ok, the guide is about dual-booting with Windows because that is usually people first experience of dual-booting. Also it's the toughest one to do lol. The same sort of plan applies to dual-booting with other distros too.

All the distros you tried apart from openSUSE were in the Debian family and mostly offshoots of Ubuntu itself! So, the fact of none of them working when Ubuntu didn't is not really a huge surprise. Each does have good reason to try it tho, just to rule out other factors;
 . Lubuntu is lighter on system resources & uses a different DE
 . Mint supposedly has more drivers & supposedly better configured for multimedia but/and uses slightly older kernels and is always based on an older release of Ubuntu
 . The latest Ubuntu uses very recent kernels which should have a better chance of working better but if it doesn't work then stepping back to Mint can be a good test.

Trying distros from the other 6-8 or so main gnu&linux families is often a good plan if straight Ubuntu doesn't work but trying ones from inside the same family has merit too :)

I tend to find that Kubuntu is very heavy and although KDE does have some nice apps i rarely need anything extra it might offer. Even with straight Ubuntu i find it best to stick with 32bit edition rather than the 64bit version. At some point there might be a switch but at the moment the 32bit one is much more widely used and tested so it tends to be much easier. This makes it sound like i am "just settling" with Ubuntu but really it's just that i have tried other things and they don't work so easily & smoothly. I choose Ubuntu 32bit because it works better for me :)

To copy the xorg.conf you might need to use a command-line and "sudo" the "cp" command. If you try the LiveCd of openSUSE and give us the output of

sudo fdisk -l
ls /media
ls /mnt

where "l" is a lower-case "L" then we could probably try to help with that.
Regards from
Tom :)

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
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with sudo fdisk -l command the konsole says "command not found"... and i'm searchin in all the folders to find xorg.conf but i still lookin for, even if in every forum they said that in opensuse there is this file. :(

i watched in etc\X11 folder but no results..

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Tom (tom6) said :
#14

Hi

Ubuntu doesn't have the xorg.conf anymore. We can run a command to re-create a new one

sudo Xorg -configure

sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.080510

The first command gets you a new xorg.conf and the 2nd one copies it to a new file in /etc/X11 called "xorg.conf.080510" so that worg.conf is safely backed-up before we start messing with it :)

Also try typing

fdisk -h

and see what result you get.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Eugenio123 (diagosta-e) said :
#15

i tried but nothings happen..

so i went back to 8.04 and...i saw that after the new installation it has the same problem! but after i installed the restricted drivers from ati all works fine! could help??

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#16

I'd use whatworks and log a bug, Hardy is supported way into 2011 so no problems with support,

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Tom (tom6) said :
#17

Hi ?

Did this ever get resolved? Did you reinstall or move to a different distro or what happened? I feel we let you down as i lost track of what was going on in Launchpad around then due to fake-world commitments.

Many apologies and regards from
Tom :)

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