Please add Uyghur translation group

Asked by Gheyret T.Kenji on 2010-02-25

https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators have no Uyghur translation group.
Please add Uyghur translation group.

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David Planella
Solved:
2010-05-20
Last query:
2010-05-20
Last reply:
2010-03-17

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David Planella (dpm) said : #1

Hi Gheyret,

Thanks for your interest in Ubuntu Translations.

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam

I see there is an Uyghur team already at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uyghur, so you could perhaps adapt it to the points mentioned in that document.

Basically, it should be a matter of:

* Renaming the team to ubuntu-l10n-ug
* Making the subscription policy Moderated
* Adding translation guidelines
* Having a communication channel for the team (e.g. a mailing list)

But please do have a look at the link I've added above for the details.

If you need any help, or you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask, and we'll be happy to give you a hand.

Regards,
David.

Gheyret T.Kenji (gheyretkenji) said : #2

Hi David,
Sorry for my bad English.

I am Gheyret T.Kenji , owner of the
Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group
I usually use Launchpad for translation.I have some problemes recent days.

1. When, I open
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+lang/ug
there is a message like
"There is no team to manage Ubuntu <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu> translations
to Uyghur <https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug>. To set one up,
please get in touch with Ubuntu Translations
Coordinators<https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators>
."

2. When I open
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/ug/+translate

there is no Input Box(translation box for input Uyghur).

>Renaming the team to ubuntu-l10n-ug
3. How do I change the existing "Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group" to
ubuntu-l10n-ug
?

Best Regards,
Gheyret T.Kenji

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM, David Planella <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #102346 on Ubuntu Translations changed:
> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/102346
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> David Planella proposed the following answer:
> Hi Gheyret,
>
> Thanks for your interest in Ubuntu Translations.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam
>
> I see there is an Uyghur team already at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-
> uyghur, so you could perhaps adapt it to the points mentioned in that
> document.
>
> Basically, it should be a matter of:
>
> * Renaming the team to ubuntu-l10n-ug
> * Making the subscription policy Moderated
> * Adding translation guidelines
> * Having a communication channel for the team (e.g. a mailing list)
>
> But please do have a look at the link I've added above for the details.
>
> If you need any help, or you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask,
> and we'll be happy to give you a hand.
>
> Regards,
> David.
>
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--
Gheyret T. Kenji

Aron Xu (happyaron) said : #3

Hi,
Please use this link: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uyghur/+edit , and change the text in "Name" field from "ubuntu-uyghur" to "ubuntu-l10n-ug". For mailing list, please send a mail to <email address hidden> to request for one.
What you see is due to your team hasn't been appointed to Uyghur language in Launchpad for Ubuntu, when you finished doing things listed above by David please ask for appointment here, after the appointment is done, you'll be able to translate.

Regards,
Aron Xu

Gheyret T.Kenji (gheyretkenji) said : #4

Hi,
When I use the link https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uyghur/+edit
there is a message like
"This team cannot be renamed because it has a mailing list."
please help me.

Regards,
Gheyret T.Kenji

David Planella (dpm) said : #5

Hi Gheyret,

El dv 26 de 02 de 2010 a les 00:54 +0000, en/na Gheyret T.Kenji va
escriure:

> Hi David,
> Sorry for my bad English.
>

No need to apologise, your English is very good. None of us in the
translation team has English as their mother tongue, so we understand
well how sometimes communicating in anoter language can be difficult.

> I am Gheyret T.Kenji , owner of the
> Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group
> I usually use Launchpad for translation.I have some problemes recent days.
>
> 1. When, I open
> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+lang/ug
> there is a message like
> "There is no team to manage Ubuntu <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu> translations
> to Uyghur <https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug>. To set one up,
> please get in touch with Ubuntu Translations
> Coordinators<https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators>
> ."
>
> 2. When I open
> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/ug/+translate
>
> there is no Input Box(translation box for input Uyghur).
>

That's due to the change of policy of the Ubuntu Translations project.
In order to improve the quality of translations of Ubuntu and to have a
clear point of contact for each language's translations, we only allow
translation teams in the ubuntu-translators group to translate Ubuntu.

The Uyghur team needs to be appointed in the ubuntu-translators group to
be able to further translate.

For a team to be appointed as responsible for a language, it has to
fulfill the requirements I was mentioning in
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam

The document is detailed, but the steps are quite easy and will help
ensuring that translation teams are run better.

> >Renaming the team to ubuntu-l10n-ug
> 3. How do I change the existing "Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group" to
> ubuntu-l10n-ug
> ?
>

You got the error message because you seem to have a mailing list, and
the mailing list needs to be either removed or migrated before renaming
the team.

I do not see a mailing list displayed at
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uyghur though. I'll take care of opening a
request for an admin to remove the mailing list to allow you changing
the team name and I'll let you know.

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

--
David Planella
Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com
www.ubuntu.com

David Planella (dpm) said : #6

I've opened a separate request for removing the existing mailing list, if there is any. This should allow you renaming the team.

Here it is: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/102485

Gheyret T.Kenji (gheyretkenji) said : #7

Hi everyone,

My problem help me to rename team name from "Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group" to
"ubuntu-l10n-ug".

Best Regards,

Gheyret T.Kenji
2010/03/05

Gheyret T.Kenji (gheyretkenji) said : #8

Please help me to rename team name from "Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group" to
"ubuntu-l10n-ug".

David Planella (dpm) said : #9

Hi Gheyret,

Could you try again to go to

  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uyghur/+edit

change the Name from 'ubuntu-uyghur' to 'ubuntu-l10n-ug', and press the 'Save' button?

Does that not allow you changing the team name? Do you still get an error message (and if so, which error message)?

Hi David,

Yes, I still cannot rename from 'ubuntu-uyghur' to 'ubuntu-l10n-ug'.
there is a screen shot:
http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/ubuntu.png

Best Regards
Gheyret T.Kenji
2010/03/05

David Planella (dpm) said : #11

Hi Gheyret,

Thanks for the screenshot. That helped clarifying the problem.

It seems that the team's mailing list in Launchpad was deleted, but not purged, which is why the team could not be renamed. This has been solved now, so you should be able to rename your team.

Please let us know if you can rename it now.

Thanks!

Hi David,

I renamed 'ubuntu-uyghur' to 'ubuntu-l10n-ug'.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards
Gheyret T.Kenji
2010/03/09

Hi David,

I renamed 'ubuntu-uyghur' to 'ubuntu-l10n-ug'. and I created mailing list named <email address hidden> for the "Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group". Now I am writing translation guidelines in Uyghur. I changed Subscription policy to Restricted Team.

But, I have some problems yet,
1. When I open https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+lang/ug
there is a message like
"There is no team to manage Ubuntu <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu> translations to Uyghur <https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug>. To set one up, please get in touch with Ubuntu Translations Coordinators<https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators>...."

2. I cannot start translation, because no input box appeared.

3. In the page https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug have an error.
   The page says text direction of Uyghur is left to right, it is not correct. text dierction of Uyghur is right to left. can you correct the error?

Best regards
Gheyret T.Kenji
2010/03/11

David Planella (dpm) said : #14

Hi Gheyret,

El dj 11 de 03 de 2010 a les 07:59 +0000, en/na Gheyret T.Kenji va
escriure:
> Question #102346 on Ubuntu Translations changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/102346
>
> Status: Solved => Open
>
> Gheyret T.Kenji is still having a problem:
> Hi David,
>
> I renamed 'ubuntu-uyghur' to 'ubuntu-l10n-ug'. and I created mailing
> list named <email address hidden> for the "Ubuntu Uyghur
> Translation Group". Now I am writing translation guidelines in Uyghur.
> I
> changed Subscription policy to Restricted Team.
>

Thanks a lot for taking care of that, and my apologies for it having
taken some days.

> But, I have some problems yet,
> 1. When I open
> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+lang/ug
> there is a message like
> "There is no team to manage Ubuntu <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu>
> translations to Uyghur
> <https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug>. To set one up,
> please get in touch with Ubuntu Translations
> Coordinators<https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators>...."
>
> 2. I cannot start translation, because no input box appeared.
>

That's because we still haven't appointed the Uyghur team to be
responsible for Ubuntu translations

I'd like to make sure you've read:

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam

and you've followed all the steps. Could you tell us a bit more about
these points in the wiki page? Have you had a chance to address those?

      * Team information
      * Team communication
      * Guidelines
      * Upstream collaboration
      * Coordinator

> 3. In the page https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug have
> an error.
> The page says text direction of Uyghur is left to right, it is not
> correct. text dierction of Uyghur is right to left. can you correct
> the error?
>

Thanks for the correction, I've now updated
https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/ug to show that the text
direction for Uyghur is Right To Left (RTL).

Hi David,

Thank you for the correction and sorry for may late answer,

Some information for you:
Team Name: ubuntu-l10n-ug, display name is Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group,
   Uyghur name of the team(In latin): Ubuntu Uyghur Terjime Guruppisi
Start Page: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug
Mailing list: <email address hidden>
Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group responsible for translation Ubuntu to Uyghur.

I added some information about how to join the team in the page(In latin) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug and http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/soft/LightNEasy.php?page=ubuntu.
and there some comments how to use Uyghur in ubuntu http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/ubuntulinux.pdf

We have Uyghur translation groups in the some upstreams.
The Uyghur team responsible to send new translation in the lauchpad if the package belongs to upstreams.
I like to be cordinator of Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group.

Below is some information about Uyghur:
Language name: Uyghur
Locale name: ug_CN
Text direction: Right To Left (RTL)
ISO 639 language code: ug (two letter ), uig (three letter)

Best David Planella (dpm) said : #16

El dc 17 de 03 de 2010 a les 02:38 +0000, en/na Gheyret T.Kenji va
escriure:
> Question #102346 on Ubuntu Translations changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/102346
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> Gheyret T.Kenji is still having a problem:
> Hi David,
>
> Thank you for the correction and sorry for may late answer,
>
> Some information for you:
> Team Name: ubuntu-l10n-ug, display name is Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group,
> Uyghur name of the team(In latin): Ubuntu Uyghur Terjime Guruppisi
> Start Page: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug
> Mailing list: <email address hidden>
> Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group responsible for translation Ubuntu to Uyghur.
>
> I added some information about how to join the team in the page(In latin) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ug and http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/soft/LightNEasy.php?page=ubuntu.
> and there some comments how to use Uyghur in ubuntu http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/ubuntulinux.pdf
>
> We have Uyghur translation groups in the some upstreams.
> The Uyghur team responsible to send new translation in the lauchpad if the package belongs to upstreams.
> I like to be cordinator of Ubuntu Uyghur Translation Group.
>
> Below is some information about Uyghur:
> Language name: Uyghur
> Locale name: ug_CN
> Text direction: Right To Left (RTL)
> ISO 639 language code: ug (two letter ), uig (three letter)
>

Hi Gheyret,

Thanks for all the information.

I have now appointed the Ubuntu Uyghur Translation team as responsible
for Ubuntu Uyghur translations.

Welcome to the Ubuntu Translators group!

Some final details:

     1. As the team coordinator, could you please subscribe to the
        ubuntu-translators mailing list and send a message to the
        mailing list announcing the appointment of the team, as
        explained in the "After the team has been accepted" section in
        [1]?
     2. You have added the team information in Latin script in
        Launchpad, but please, do feel free to use the Arabic script or
        whichever one is best for your translators and users.
     3. Are any of these documents [2] [3] the translation guidelines?
        If so, please link to them by going to
        https://translations.launchpad.net/people/+me (You'll find more
        info here [4])
     4. I see you have created a Launchpad mailing list for the team.
        While it is valid, we generally recommend creating an official
        Ubuntu mailing list [5] for translation teams. The reason we do
        not recommend the creation of Launchpad mailing lists for
        translation teams is because we encourage a model in which only
        a few translators (the team members in Launchpad) can act as
        reviewers, while everyone with a Launchpad account can submit
        suggestions. Using a Launchpad mailing list does not allow
        communication between all contributors, since only members of
        the team can subscribe to the list. I don't want this to be a
        blocker, so I've requested the creation of an Ubuntu mailing
        list for you [6] and you can use the Launchpad mailing list
        until it is created. After that, I'd like to ask you to delete
        the Launchpad list and use the Ubuntu one instead.

Just let us know if you need help in anything.

Regards,
David.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam
[2] http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/soft/LightNEasy.php?page=ubuntu.
[3] http://kenjisoft.homelinux.com/ubuntulinux.pdf
[4] http://adi.roiban.ro/2009/03/20/localization-guidelines-in-launchpad-towards-improving-quality/
[5] https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Localization+Lists
[6] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=9838 (username: ubuntu, password: ubuntu)

David Planella (dpm) said : #17

Gheyret,

This support request was actioned a while ago. I believe it is now solved, so if it is, could you please mark it as Solved on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/102346 by clicking on the answer that solved your question? Thanks!

Thanks David Planella, that solved my question.