Problems with the templates list of Lucid

Hi Gabor,
Thanks for your raising these problems! Here are my changes:

Templates that are disabled in Lucid now:

gutsy-wallpapers template: ubuntu-wallpapers and gutsy-wallpapers are now separated into two packages, the latter one is in universe now. I think you can contact the package maintainer to see whether this package can be translated as other common packages in universe.

computer-janitor: merged translations in domain computerjanitor to computerjanitorapp and disabled computerjanitor because it does not exist anymore during build.

libgda3: demoted to universe

ubuntu-docs-programming: according to bug LP: #414035

compiz-fusion-plugins-extra: demoted to universe

abiword: demoted to universe

gpaint-2: demoted to universe

gnome-pilot-conduits: demoted to universe

xsane: demoted to universe

kdelibs templates: demoted to universe, this package is kdelibs for KDE 3 which is no longer in main. (Template names: cupsdconf, kabc-sql, katepart, kdelibs, kdelibs-colors, kdeprint, kfileaudiopreview, kio, kio-help, kmcop, knotify, kstyle-highcontrast-config, kstyle-plastik-config, ktexteditor-autobookmarker, ktexteditor-docwordcompletion, ktexteditor-insertfile, ktexteditor-isearch, ktexteditor-kdatatool, kde, qt-messages)

Templates needed raised priority:
(Note: Lucid template priority is not set up, so these changes are only intended for easing further changes)

gimp-tips: to the same as other gimp templates, in Lucid gimp templates should have lower priority than in Karmic because gimp are no longer in default installation.

failsafexinit: in xorg package, set its priority to 7600, see LP: #335678

gbrainy: set its priority to 7200, the same as gnome-games package.

grub: set its priority to 8000, grub2 is translatable now.

indicator-me: set its priority to 9280, the same as indicator-* family

ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu-*: set their priority to 9400, which is 100 lower than ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-*, and not include into language packs. These template's priorities may need further investigation.

simple-scan: set its priority to 7320, it is now in default installation

Template that has changed name:

texinfo in texinfo-bin package has now changed name to texinfo-bin.

Best regards,
Aron Xu

As for Hungarian translations of texinfo, you may want to contact Ubuntu Hungarian Translators team at https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-hu

Thanks for the quick reaction!
There is (at least ;)) one more: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screem - this seems to be dropped from Lucid: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/screem

Hi, also disabled screem template from Lucid, thanks!

Re, I have problems again :)

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/computer-janitor
I don't think you hid the correct template: in Karmic, there is this:

$ dpkg -S /usr/share/locale-langpack/hu/LC_MESSAGES/computerjanitor.mo
language-pack-gnome-hu-base: /usr/share/locale-langpack/hu/LC_MESSAGES/computerjanitor.mo

But the current language pack does not contain anything like this:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/all/language-pack-gnome-hu-base/filelist

And this template had no strings, while the other was at 100%...

gbrainy is still on the last page: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+lang/hu/+index?start=1200&batch=300
Are you sure you it's priority is set correctly?

Also, pitivi is finally here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/pitivi
but it's priority is low too.

Hi, thanks for your feedback!
I've checked gbrainy and set it to 7200, it should be okay now. And pitivi has been set to 7320.
As for computer-janitor, please track its status when next language pack is available, because we made changes on 2010-02-07, but current language packs were generated at 2010-02-06, the name of translation file should be computerjanitorapp.mo now.

Hi, I found another unneeded template:

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/scribus

Scribus actually uses the ts/qm format, the po is available only for the convenience of translators, see here:

http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&sm=translationhowto&page=translation_howto

Please note that some teams already translated a lot of strings in this big template, so we should make them know that they should export their work and proceed according to the above howto, in order to make their translations available to users.

A quick note:

When disabling translations from Ubuntu, it is recommended first to generate an full export and make it available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/Universe

By doing this, the translations are not lost :)

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/nis in in Universe now.

And we have these:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/old-translation/scribus-launchpad-export.tar.gz
http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/old-translation/yp-tools-launchpad-export.tar.gz
http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/old-translation/ypbind-mt-launchpad-export.tar.gz

Adi: is it ok to keep these in my directory, or you prefer a more centralized approach? :)

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdb/+pots/opcodes and
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/binutils/+pots/opcodes

are the same, just as

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdb/+pots/bfd and
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/binutils/+pots/bfd

The upstream of these seems to be the binutils package:

http://translationproject.org/domain/bfd.html
http://translationproject.org/domain/opcodes.html
(and the gdb source contains copies of these libraries)

So, I think it's safe to disable these two under the gdb package. Exports are here:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/old-translation/bfd-launchpad-export.tar.gz
http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/old-translation/opcodes-launchpad-export.tar.gz

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. If I fail to answer in time on an email or question and you see me online please ping me :)

It is ok to keep them in your account, Just make sure they are linked from this page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/Universe

It would be nice if you could also save a "static" view of the template so that it will be easy to see if a language has translations that should be send upstream.
Something like this:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~adiroiban/obsolete-translations/policykit-gnome/Template%20%E2%80%9Cpolicykit-gnome%E2%80%9D%20%20%20%E2%80%9Cpolicykit-gnome%E2%80%9D%20source%20package%20%20%20Translations%20%20%20Karmic%20(9.10)%20%20%20Ubuntu.html

These are hidden now, and the exported translations listed on the wiki page:
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdb/+pots/bfd
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdb/+pots/opcodes
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/nis/+pots/ypbind-mt
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/nis/+pots/yp-tools
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/scribus/+pots/scribus

And it's still not over:

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gobby/+pots/gobby
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gthumb/+pots/gthumb
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gcompris/+pots/gcompris
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/planner/+pots/planner
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/obby/+pots/obby
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/elinks/+pots/elinks
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/atomix/+pots/atomix
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/tuxmath/+pots/tuxmath
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/tuxtype/+pots/tuxtype
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/tuxpaint/+pots/tuxpaint
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/tuxpaint-stamps/+pots/tuxpaint-stamps
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/skim/+pots/desktop-skim
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/skim/+pots/skim
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/nmap/+pots/zenmap - this is in universe, altough it comes from the same source as nmap, which is in main
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/xaos/+pots/xaos
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/zope3/+pots/zope

Templates in the previous comment are hidden and exported packages are listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/Universe

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/edubuntu-docs is also in universe now. But, I'm not sure we just want to throw it out... what did we do with xubuntu-docs exactly?

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/edubuntu-artwork in universe, disabled it.

El ds 27 de 02 de 2010 a les 14:06 +0000, en/na Gabor Kelemen va
escriure:
> Question #100168 on Ubuntu Translations changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/100168
>
> Status: Solved => Open
>
> Gabor Kelemen is still having a problem:
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/edubuntu-docs is also in
> universe now. But, I'm not sure we just want to throw it out... what did
> we do with xubuntu-docs exactly?
>

I'm not sure about the status of edubuntu docs. They only seem to
contain about-edubuntu.xml. From memory, I think I or someone else asked
at ubuntu-docs how maintained translations were and received no reply,
so I've decided to ask [1].

For Xubuntu docs we decided to export and move them out of the Ubuntu
source package space in Launchpad and to a separate project, with the
possibility to move them back to Ubuntu if translations were actually
maintained [2].

Adi helped them with that, but I haven't seen much activity in the
xubuntu-docs project [3] since then.

[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-March/014411.html
[2]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2009-November/014021.html
(the thread continues in the Dec 2009 archives)
[3] https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs

I guess that this question is solved.
Right now all of us are member of Ubuntu Translation Coordinator team and we can enable/disable templates right away.

Cheers :)