Subdownloader price (windows version)

Asked by FabHawk on 2008-12-26

Hi,

I have difficulties to understand why you made the windows version shareware (30 days). Moreover, I always contribute by a donation to software I am using, but here, the price is really excessive to my view. I was requested to pay 21 Euros !!!
Where the full version of BitChe (similar audience software), is 5 USD...

I also use to upload a lot of subtitles to contribute to the software and enrich the database. I found it very weird to have to pay for that.

I know you are going to answer me either to use another OS, but I am not going to do so just for one software, even if it is very good.
You could also answer that I could compile myself the program unfortunatly, I don't know how to do that...

Well, I am very interested in having your answer.

Anyway thanks for your work on the great software, and for now I stick with version 1.5.1

Best regards
F

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PhobosK (phobosk) said : #1

> I also use to upload a lot of subtitles to contribute to the software and enrich the database.
> I found it very weird to have to pay for that.

@FabHawk,
Sorry but i just want to make a clarification. This program uses a totally independent and free service on the opensubtitles.org.
So you have not contributed to this exact software but to the community, which should be a good thing for you to know.

BTW probably you will not get a decent answer on your main question by the developer... :S

If you want to change the software you use for downloading subtitles (using the same database you have contributed to) you may check this link and test some of the real open source applications: http://trac.opensubtitles.org/projects/opensubtitles

If you insist on using this one, I will prepare it for you to be used free of charge (since the code is GPL'd it is ok for me to do it :) )

And btw you may read my opinion on all this here: http://answers.launchpad.net/subdownloader/+question/52299

Marco Rodrigues (gothicx) said : #3

Already answered in another question.

Libor Nenadál (libor-nenadal) said : #4

I think that you took wrong way with licensing windows version. I liked Subdownloader (version 2.0.3) that was free but as today OpenSubtitles.org experienced some problems I downloaded version 2.0.9. To my surprise it was no longer free although it claimed to be. I think you should not use GPL licence in about dialog or just make it GPL compliant. I am really disappointed in you guys. As you have removed all previous (free) windows binaries you are changing the rules during the game. :-( It think it would be more fair to allow users either download previous version or let them decide to pay for new version with more(?) features.

Libor Nenadál (libor-nenadal) said : #5

BTW: Are you aware of this? To cite:
"It must not be distributed under a licence specific to one operating system. The rights attached to the software must not depend on the programme's being part of Ubuntu, for example."

https://help.launchpad.net/Legal/ProjectLicensing

Please reconsider your approach!

Ivan Garcia (capiscuas) said : #6

Dear Libor, you are right,

the Windows license needs to remove the GPL reference in their about message due that it uses a dual license: closed license for the windows binaries and open source license for the rest.

Best Regards.

PhobosK (phobosk) said : #7

Dear @Libor,
It is a fact that ANY owner of ANY code can do whatever he wants with it... He can even "change the rules in the middle of the game", but i see your question more like what is the ethics of doing this...
Unfortunately i do not think this is the right place for you to seek ethics and morality, because where money are involved, Opensource code stops to work the way it is meant to work... :S
On the other hand it is good that there are still real FOSS developers that do not care about money and that help the community to develop further...

So your choices are just two:
1. Either dump using SubDownloader and choose another application for doing this job (you can choose from here: http://trac.opensubtitles.org/projects/opensubtitles ).
OR
2. You can still use SubDownloader but free of charge and prepared by yourself following my instructions here: http://forum.opensubtitles.org/viewtopic.php?t=1589

Ivan Garcia (capiscuas) said : #8

Hello PhobosK, I would like to say that in any moment the project has stopped being open sourced. You can access our code source any moment, run the code for it, even download the Linux packages free of charge for Ubuntu, Mandriva, etc.

Even MacOS is free of charge in .dmg format.

But for the Windows binaries we have added a small tax as I repeated earlier.

So I would add a extra choice from your list:

3. Move to Linux :-) and use SubDownloader free of charge.

Best Regards.

PhobosK (phobosk) said : #9

Hmm,
I think choice 3 is the most stupid one.
@Ivan you cannot make someone use Linux just because one of the programs he uses is GPL under Linux and shareware under Windows...
Besides lately the two most spread desktop environments - KDE and GNOME - made a total mess with their latest releases so i doubt any newbie will like Linux at all ATM...
Anyway i think i spent too much time miffing with your licensing desires, and you spent too much time explaining your decision, so it is better for me to stop complaining and for you it is better to clean your coding style and add more features to SubDownloader....

Marco Ferreira (mferreira) said : #10

This issue has been ping-ponged for too much time. We accept advices on how to improve the application, not on how we manage it.

Cheers to all.
Closing.

Marco Ferreira (mferreira) said : #11

This issue has been ping-ponged for too much time. We accept advices on how to improve the application, not on how we manage it.

Cheers to all.
Closing.