SamePlace

New sidebar and hiding/retrieving questions

Asked by limeonaire

As I just noted on the blog, I've now disabled SamePlace for the time being because of the interface update. Unfortunately, the new interface now adds a little visible white expander bar to the left side of Firefox (3.0.7, OS 10.4.11) at all times, even when SamePlace isn't in use. The whole point of my using SamePlace in the first place was that when I was using it at work, it was easily hidden/retrieved with a single keypress, with nothing besides a single icon/button on the navigation toolbar to betray its existence. That's why I chose the SamePlace extension over dozens of competing products. So...why is that little sliver of expander bar for the left-side toolbar visible? And can anything be done about this? Please, please, please let me know!

Also, re: hiding/retrieving with a single keypress, the shortcut I had assigned to hide/retrieve, F1, no longer works, and there's no visible option to reenable that functionality. I'm on a Mac, so F12 can't be the shortcut, because that's the Dashboard shortcut. Any help on this?

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Massimiliano Mirra (bard-hyperstruct) said : 		#1

The shortcut was changed to F9 to avoid conflicting with Firebug... I added a notice on the download page but maybe that should be stressed more.

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limeonaire (sameplace) said : 		#2

Hmm. F9, F10, F11, and F12 don't work for Mac users, 'cause they're default shortcut keys for the operating system. F1 won't likely work for XP/Vista users, 'cause it's Windows' default Help key. F5 reloads the browser on both systems.

What about F2, F3, or another function key? Or adding back in the option to choose which function key to use?

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Massimiliano Mirra (bard-hyperstruct) said : 		#3

> Hmm. F9, F10, F11, and F12 don't work for Mac users, 'cause they're default shortcut keys for the
> operating system. F1 won't likely work for XP/Vista users, 'cause it's Windows' default Help key. F5 reloads
> the browser on both systems.

Argh. :(

> What about F2, F3, or another function key?

Yes. I guess the options are F2, F3, F4, and F8, right?

> Or adding back in the option to choose which function key to use?

I'd rather not, as it's not just an option, it's a whole lot of code handling the keybinding in quite a hacky way. The platform itself doesn't support reconfigurable keybindings. :(

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limeonaire (sameplace) said : 		#4

Sigh. Sorry to complicate things!

Something just occurred to me, and I went to have a look at the MacBook keyboard layout (see: http://www.gadget.co.za/imageLib/HomePage/SeriousHardware/MacBookKeyboard.jpg). It turns out that only complicates things further, 'cause basically none of the function keys are open to reassignment. (The two that don't have symbols on them, F5 and F6, are linked to Expose functions by default.) Same goes for the Apple aluminum keyboard.

Alas, it's all starting to seem a lot more complicated than when I first proposed this. Maybe we Mac users will just have to go without a keyboard shortcut...!

Thanks for considering the issue, though.

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Massimiliano Mirra (bard-hyperstruct) said : 		#5

> Sigh. Sorry to complicate things!

Quite the contrary! This is an issue and I wouldn't know if you hadn't told me about it.

> Alas, it's all starting to seem a lot more complicated than when I first proposed this. Maybe we Mac users will just have to go without a keyboard shortcut...!

I've applied a change to toggle sidebar on both F9 and Control+F9 (which I guess means Command+F9 in Mac-land). Only issue is that View->Sidebar->SamePlace menu still shows F9, but other than that it should work.

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