Looking for documentation on oshippy 1.0

Asked by kevingill

Hi,

I downloaded and started up oshippy version 1.0.

The setup screen it references a document called "OSHIP Application Developers Guide" - is there a link available for that document.

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Tim Cook (timothywayne-cook) said :
#1

Wow! I thought I had deleted the code for that. :-)
That is very old and it is based on openEHR which is not really
implementable in any meaningful way. That is why OSHIP was abandoned.

You may be interested in MLHIM
https://launchpad.net/mlhim-specs/2.0/2.4.3/+download/mlhim-specs-2013-10-15-2.4.3-Release.zip

Though there isn't a functioning EMR available there is a demo of the
concepts on GitHub https://github.com/mlhim Check the mlhim-emr and
tools repositories.

Join us on G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TimothyWCook/posts

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM, kevingill
<email address hidden> wrote:
> New question #239623 on Open Source Health Information Platform:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
>
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded and started up oshippy version 1.0.
>
> The setup screen it references a document called "OSHIP Application Developers Guide" - is there a link available for that document.
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you are an answer
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kevingill (kevin-movieextras) said :
#2

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the response. I had a lot of difficulty finding the code and
the usual buildout dance.

Really, I am looking at the archetype parser and probably the datatypes.
My focus is on iso/cen13606.

I will have a look ath MLHIM.

--
Kevin Gill
<email address hidden>
www.movieextras.ie

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 01:41 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
> Your question #239623 on Open Source Health Information Platform changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Tim Cook proposed the following answer:
> Wow! I thought I had deleted the code for that. :-)
> That is very old and it is based on openEHR which is not really
> implementable in any meaningful way. That is why OSHIP was abandoned.
>
> You may be interested in MLHIM
> https://launchpad.net/mlhim-specs/2.0/2.4.3/+download/mlhim-specs-2013-10-15-2.4.3-Release.zip
>
> Though there isn't a functioning EMR available there is a demo of the
> concepts on GitHub https://github.com/mlhim Check the mlhim-emr and
> tools repositories.
>
> Join us on G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TimothyWCook/posts
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM, kevingill
> <email address hidden> wrote:
> > New question #239623 on Open Source Health Information Platform:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I downloaded and started up oshippy version 1.0.
> >
> > The setup screen it references a document called "OSHIP Application Developers Guide" - is there a link available for that document.
> >
> > --
> > You received this question notification because you are an answer
> > contact for Open Source Health Information Platform.
>
>
> --
> MLHIM VIP Signup: http://goo.gl/22B0U
> ============================================
> Timothy Cook, MSc +55 21 94711995
> MLHIM http://www.mlhim.org
> Like Us on FB: https://www.facebook.com/mlhim2
> Circle us on G+: http://goo.gl/44EV5
> Google Scholar: http://goo.gl/MMZ1o
> LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothywaynecook
>
> --
> If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
> know that it is solved:
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>
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kevingill (kevin-movieextras) said :
#3

Hi Tim,

I had a look at MLHIM, but to be honest I am finding it difficult to
navigate the documentation.

The spec document seem to have diminished over time. I am assuming that
this is an attempt to move from a document oriented spec to X-mind.

There is also a large body of video. However, this is difficult to
navigate and slow to search compared with text. Bear in mind to go
through a one hour video takes me two hours as I google the referenced
technologies.

The mailing list on launchpad moved to a git forum, but the link no
longer works...

http://<email address hidden>/msg00512.html

There is a google plus and facebook, but these are more of a blog than
an interactive area. Is there a forum, mailing list, stack overflow
group etc?

Thanks,

--
Kevin Gill
<email address hidden>
www.movieextras.ie

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 02:24 PM, Kevin Gill wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for the response. I had a lot of difficulty finding the code and
> the usual buildout dance.
>
> Really, I am looking at the archetype parser and probably the datatypes.
> My focus is on iso/cen13606.
>
> I will have a look ath MLHIM.
>
> --
> Kevin Gill
> <email address hidden>
> www.movieextras.ie
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 01:41 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
> > Your question #239623 on Open Source Health Information Platform changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
> >
> > Status: Open => Answered
> >
> > Tim Cook proposed the following answer:
> > Wow! I thought I had deleted the code for that. :-)
> > That is very old and it is based on openEHR which is not really
> > implementable in any meaningful way. That is why OSHIP was abandoned.
> >
> > You may be interested in MLHIM
> > https://launchpad.net/mlhim-specs/2.0/2.4.3/+download/mlhim-specs-2013-10-15-2.4.3-Release.zip
> >
> > Though there isn't a functioning EMR available there is a demo of the
> > concepts on GitHub https://github.com/mlhim Check the mlhim-emr and
> > tools repositories.
> >
> > Join us on G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+TimothyWCook/posts
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM, kevingill
> > <email address hidden> wrote:
> > > New question #239623 on Open Source Health Information Platform:
> > > https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I downloaded and started up oshippy version 1.0.
> > >
> > > The setup screen it references a document called "OSHIP Application Developers Guide" - is there a link available for that document.
> > >
> > > --
> > > You received this question notification because you are an answer
> > > contact for Open Source Health Information Platform.
> >
> >
> > --
> > MLHIM VIP Signup: http://goo.gl/22B0U
> > ============================================
> > Timothy Cook, MSc +55 21 94711995
> > MLHIM http://www.mlhim.org
> > Like Us on FB: https://www.facebook.com/mlhim2
> > Circle us on G+: http://goo.gl/44EV5
> > Google Scholar: http://goo.gl/MMZ1o
> > LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothywaynecook
> >
> > --
> > If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
> > know that it is solved:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623/+confirm?answer_id=0
> >
> > If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
> > following page to enter your feedback:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
> >
> > You received this question notification because you asked the question.

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Tim Cook (timothywayne-cook) said :
#4

Hi Kevin,

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:26 AM, kevingill
<email address hidden> wrote:

> I had a look at MLHIM, but to be honest I am finding it difficult to
> navigate the documentation.
>
> The spec document seem to have diminished over time. I am assuming that
> this is an attempt to move from a document oriented spec to X-mind.
>

Did you download this and see the documentation:
https://launchpad.net/mlhim-specs/2.0/2.4.3/+download/mlhim-specs-2013-10-15-2.4.3-Release.zip

> There is also a large body of video. However, this is difficult to
> navigate and slow to search compared with text. Bear in mind to go
> through a one hour video takes me two hours as I google the referenced
> technologies.

Sure. Yes, it is time consuming to navigate. It was time consuming
to create too.
But many people do like videos whereas others prefer text.

> There is a google plus and facebook, but these are more of a blog than
> an interactive area. Is there a forum, mailing list, stack overflow
> group etc?

The mailing list model has sort of fallen out of use with more and
more people using social media platforms. The FB and Twitter feeds
are primarily announcement things. You are encouraged to use Google
Plus for support questions and conversations. It is easier to spread
this to community as well as re-share specific topics with other
communities.

You can send questions directly to MLHIM
https://plus.google.com/+MlhimOrg/posts or you may join the private
community and post there gplus.to/MLHIMComm as you prefer.

HTH,

Tim

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kevingill (kevin-movieextras) said :
#5

Thanks for the response...

> Did you download this and see the documentation:
> https://launchpad.net/mlhim-specs/2.0/2.4.3/+download/mlhim-specs-2013-10-15-2.4.3-Release.zip
>

I didn't find that link. The http://mlhim.org/documents.html page sends
me to a google docs folder with a confusing set of images. I found the
documents contained in this file in the github project,
https://github.com/mlhim/specs/tree/master/documents/2.4.3, but they are
better constructed in the zip file. The github version also misdirected
me since, I tried to use the 2.4.4 folder which only contains the
cut-down document.

I will read these documents.

> Sure. Yes, it is time consuming to navigate. It was time consuming
> to create too.
> But many people do like videos whereas others prefer text.

I accept that and I appreciate the time and effort you and your team
have invested in these videos.

> The mailing list model has sort of fallen out of use with more and
> more people using social media platforms. The FB and Twitter feeds
> are primarily announcement things. You are encouraged to use Google
> Plus for support questions and conversations. It is easier to spread
> this to community as well as re-share specific topics with other
> communities.

OK, I will try to be modern. I registered with google plus, so I will
eventually post my questions there. Normally, before I ask a question, I
want to see if it is answered already.

--
Kevin Gill
<email address hidden>
www.movieextras.ie

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
> Your question #239623 on Open Source Health Information Platform changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Tim Cook proposed the following answer:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:26 AM, kevingill
> <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> > I had a look at MLHIM, but to be honest I am finding it difficult to
> > navigate the documentation.
> >
> > The spec document seem to have diminished over time. I am assuming that
> > this is an attempt to move from a document oriented spec to X-mind.
> >
>
>
> Did you download this and see the documentation:
> https://launchpad.net/mlhim-specs/2.0/2.4.3/+download/mlhim-specs-2013-10-15-2.4.3-Release.zip
>
>
> > There is also a large body of video. However, this is difficult to
> > navigate and slow to search compared with text. Bear in mind to go
> > through a one hour video takes me two hours as I google the referenced
> > technologies.
>
> Sure. Yes, it is time consuming to navigate. It was time consuming
> to create too.
> But many people do like videos whereas others prefer text.
>
>
> > There is a google plus and facebook, but these are more of a blog than
> > an interactive area. Is there a forum, mailing list, stack overflow
> > group etc?
>
> The mailing list model has sort of fallen out of use with more and
> more people using social media platforms. The FB and Twitter feeds
> are primarily announcement things. You are encouraged to use Google
> Plus for support questions and conversations. It is easier to spread
> this to community as well as re-share specific topics with other
> communities.
>
> You can send questions directly to MLHIM
> https://plus.google.com/+MlhimOrg/posts or you may join the private
> community and post there gplus.to/MLHIMComm as you prefer.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Tim
>
> --
> If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
> know that it is solved:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623/+confirm?answer_id=3
>
> If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
> following page to enter your feedback:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/oship/+question/239623
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Tim Cook (timothywayne-cook) said :
#6

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, kevingill
<email address hidden> wrote:
>
> I didn't find that link.

Sorry, I thought I sent it before.

> The http://mlhim.org/documents.html page sends
> me to a google docs folder with a confusing set of images. I found the
> documents contained in this file in the github project,
> https://github.com/mlhim/specs/tree/master/documents/2.4.3, but they are
> better constructed in the zip file.

Great. We'll get the Website updated.

> The github version also misdirected
> me since, I tried to use the 2.4.4 folder which only contains the
> cut-down document.
>

I guess that is because from GitHub it isn't obvious that the current
release is 2.4.3 We will work on making this clear.

>
> OK, I will try to be modern. I registered with google plus, so I will
> eventually post my questions there.

Well, don't tell anyone but I much prefer a mailing list. But I
recognize that interacting with more people requires social media.

Thanks for your feedback. It helps improve the ecosystem for everyone.

--Tim

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