re-merged ?

Asked by paolocollector on 2010-08-24

I read:
" Please use the latest version of Simple Backup (SBackup) "

I am not sure: does this mean that i should stop using nssbackup 0.3 and move to sbackup 0.11 ?

Or is it only a note for sbackup users to remind to move to the next version?

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Anton (feenstra) said : #1

On 24/08/10 11:53, paolocollector wrote:
> New question #122507 on nssbackup:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/nssbackup/+question/122507
>
> I read:
> " Please use the latest version of Simple Backup (SBackup)"
>
> I am not sure: does this mean that i should stop using nssbackup 0.3 and move to sbackup 0.11 ?
>
> Or is it only a note for sbackup users to remind to move to the next version?

nssbackup and SBackup are finally re-merged. SBackup 0.11.x is identical
with nssbackup 0.3.x. Development will take place in SBackup (to stop
confusion) from now. So, you're invited to use SBackup from now on.

--
Groetjes,

Anton

Je la 24/08/2010 13:57-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Anton skribis
(esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
>
> Question #122507 on nssbackup changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/nssbackup/+question/122507
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Anton proposed the following answer:
> On 24/08/10 11:53, paolocollector wrote:
>> New question #122507 on nssbackup:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/nssbackup/+question/122507
>>
>> I read:
>> " Please use the latest version of Simple Backup (SBackup)"
>>
>> I am not sure: does this mean that i should stop using nssbackup 0.3 and move to sbackup 0.11 ?
>>
>> Or is it only a note for sbackup users to remind to move to the next version?
>
> nssbackup and SBackup are finally re-merged. SBackup 0.11.x is identical
> with nssbackup 0.3.x. Development will take place in SBackup (to stop
> confusion) from now. So, you're invited to use SBackup from now on.
>
>
so well, so good.

I updated nssbackup to sbackup with apt-get in my ubuntu 10.04, to the
lucid version, given by
http://ppa.launchpad.net/nssbackup-team/ppa/ubuntu
(nssbackup was listed as to be uninstalled)

I checked that sbackup 0.11.2 ins in /usr/bin dated of to-day

nssbackup is no longer operational (although the menu entries are always
there),
and sbackup fails (see hereunder) and I see no menu about it.

leleu@portable-leleu:~$ nssbackup
nssbackup : commande introuvable
leleu@portable-leleu:~$ sbackup
Updating GNOME_KEYRING_PID to: None
Updating GPG_AGENT_INFO to: None
Now launching indicator application (status icon).
Unable to get KDE Session Manager:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.kde.ksmserver
was not provided by any .service files
Indicator application started (PID: 9070)
Updating GNOME_KEYRING_PID to: None
Updating GPG_AGENT_INFO to: None

ans an error message:
Erreur critique: Aucun fichier de configuration trouvé pour le profile
par défaut.

thanks to help me to have an operational backup again

Jean-Peer Lorenz (peer.loz) said : #3

Hello Robert,

please follow these steps:

1. translate your error message into english 'ans an error message:
Erreur critique: Aucun fichier de configuration trouvé pour le profile
par défaut.' and post it

2. open Synaptic package manager and search for 'nssbackup' and *purge* (i.e. remove it including configuration) all related packages

3. repeat step 2 for 'sbackup': *purge* all sbackup related packages

4. Open menu item 'Preferences -> Repositories' in Synaptic and remove all entries related to nssbackup PPA

5. if you've manually modified your sources.list, undo all of your changes related to nssbackup/sbackup. There is no need to mess around with configuration files in Ubuntu 10.04 in order to add a PPA. You can do it using the GUI (and you should use the GUI unless you really know what you're doing ;-)

6. Close the repositories dialog and reload your packages list within Synaptic. At this time, neither nssbackup nor sbackup should be installed on your machine. Plus, you should only find sbackup 0.10.5 (this is the version included in Ubuntu Lucid's universe) when looking for it.

7. You can now add our PPA https://launchpad.net/~nssbackup-team/+archive/ppa to your repositories: open the repositories dialog again. Select tab 'Other software' and just add the following line 'ppa:nssbackup-team/ppa', press ok and then reload your packages list within Synaptic.

8. You should now find sbackup 0.11.x in Synaptic.

9. Install it (sbackup and sbackup-gtk) and check/set configurations according to your need in sbackup gui.

10. In the case you are paranoid and/or don't trust the Simple Backup Maintainers you can disable the source in the repositories dialog. Though you'll not receive automatic updates from this source then.

HTH,
Jean-Peer

first: thanks for so fast an answer

it succeeded but it also presumably succeeded the first time....I just
did not find that sbackup menu entries are not at the same place that
nssbackup ones

youll' find a report, answering in the text for each step

please take in consideration point 10.

Thanks

Je la 26/09/2010 18:38-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jean-Peer Lorenz
skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
>
> Question #122507 on nssbackup changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/nssbackup/+question/122507
>
> Jean-Peer Lorenz proposed the following answer:
> Hello Robert,
>
> please follow these steps:
>
> 1. translate your error message into english 'ans an error message:
> Erreur critique: Aucun fichier de configuration trouvé pour le profile
> par défaut.' and post it
my translation is: "No configuration file found for default profile"
(presumably not exactly the original text)
>
> 2. open Synaptic package manager and search for 'nssbackup' and *purge*
> (i.e. remove it including configuration) all related packages
the purge option ("sélectionner pour suppression complète", I guess, was
not available. So I first proceeded to step 3.
Then I installed again nssbackup (by the way, it seemed to be in order
again), and then purged it

>
> 3. repeat step 2 for 'sbackup': *purge* all sbackup related packages
>
> 4. Open menu item 'Preferences -> Repositories' in Synaptic and remove
> all entries related to nssbackup PPA
done
>
> 5. if you've manually modified your sources.list, undo all of your
> changes related to nssbackup/sbackup. There is no need to mess around
> with configuration files in Ubuntu 10.04 in order to add a PPA. You can
> do it using the GUI (and you should use the GUI unless you really know
> what you're doing ;-)
I do use the GUI
>
> 6. Close the repositories dialog and reload your packages list within
> Synaptic. At this time, neither nssbackup nor sbackup should be
> installed on your machine. Plus, you should only find sbackup 0.10.5
> (this is the version included in Ubuntu Lucid's universe) when looking
> for it.
correct
>
> 7. You can now add our PPA https://launchpad.net/~nssbackup-
> team/+archive/ppa to your repositories: open the repositories dialog
> again. Select tab 'Other software' and just add the following line 'ppa
> :nssbackup-team/ppa', press ok and then reload your packages list within
> Synaptic.
correct
>
> 8. You should now find sbackup 0.11.x in Synaptic.
correct
>
> 9. Install it (sbackup and sbackup-gtk) and check/set configurations
> according to your need in sbackup gui.
installed, but there I find no menu entry for sbackup. Old entries for
nssbackup are always her, in "Applications>Autres"= "Softwares>Others" I
guess

running sbackup from a terminal give the same result as previously

leleu@portable-leleu:~$ sbackup
Updating GNOME_KEYRING_PID to: None
Updating GPG_AGENT_INFO to: None
Now launching indicator application (status icon).
Unable to get KDE Session Manager:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.kde.ksmserver
was not provided by any .service files
Indicator application started (PID: 15165)
Updating GNOME_KEYRING_PID to: None
Updating GPG_AGENT_INFO to: None
leleu@portable-leleu:~$

followed by the same erro message
>
> 10. In the case you are paranoid and/or don't trust the Simple Backup
> Maintainers you can disable the source in the repositories dialog.
> Though you'll not receive automatic updates from this source then.
I'm no paranoid, and fully trust you, but adding the ppa just added the
"main" .....what should I do to add the "source"?
>
> HTH,
> Jean-Peer
>

Jean-Peer Lorenz (peer.loz) said : #5

Hi,

> what should I do to add the "source"?
You don't need it. If you want the source code of simple backup just go to https://launchpad.net/sbackup/+download
There, you can download tarballs containing the source that you can extract into a directory of your choice and inspect the code.

> my translation is: "No configuration file found for default profile"
This mean no backup can be created because there is no configuration file present. The purge step removed it (however, purge is always preferable over remove when reinstalling software because it really removes everything of the old package). You'll have to set up a configuration before you can make a backup.

> installed, but there I find no menu entry for sbackup
Well, this'd be really weird. SBackup installs menu entries under:
* Applications -> Accessories (start it from here a normal user without root privileges, does not support scheduled backups)
* Applications -> System tools (start it from here a root user, enables scheduled backups).
In case there is no menu entry 'Applications->System tools' it could be required to enable this submenu under 'System -> Settings -> Main menu'.

Does invokation from the command line using 'sbackup-config-gtk' resp. 'gksu sbackup-config-gtk' work?

Jean-Peer

Je la 27/09/2010 00:52-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jean-Peer Lorenz
skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
> Question #122507 on nssbackup changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/nssbackup/+question/122507
>
> Jean-Peer Lorenz proposed the following answer:
> Hi,
>
>> what should I do to add the "source"?
> You don't need it. If you want the source code of simple backup just go to https://launchpad.net/sbackup/+download
> There, you can download tarballs containing the source that you can extract into a directory of your choice and inspect the code.
I don't need the source....I just want to be automatically advised for
upgrades....
>
> Well, this'd be really weird. SBackup installs menu entries under:
> * Applications -> Accessories (start it from here a normal user without root privileges, does not support scheduled backups)
> * Applications -> System tools (start it from here a root user, enables scheduled backups).
> In case there is no menu entry 'Applications->System tools' it could be required to enable this submenu under 'System -> Settings -> Main menu'.
>
> Does invokation from the command line using 'sbackup-config-gtk' resp.
> 'gksu sbackup-config-gtk' work?
yes of course.....but having installed "sbackup", I just tried
"sbackup", since I did not received a message specifying tha I should
invoke something else....

In fact this is not an improvement for you, but rather for synaptic....
thanks for your help
>
> Jean-Peer
>

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