electron proton collision via MadGraph and Pythia6

Asked by Reza Jafari

Dear Experts,

I am trying to generate data for the process of e- p > vl j t~ with p = p b b~.
In the MadGraph level everything is fine. But when I switch Pythia6 on, there is not any event in the output file.
Is there any solution for this problem?

Note: As pythia8 is not compatible for ep collision, I use pythia6 and I receive these messages:
INFO: Pythia6 needs a specific normalisation of the events. We will change it accordingly.
INFO: modify parameter event_norm of the run_card.dat to sum

In general, is there any new update in MadGraph shell to perform showering and hadronization for ep collisions?

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Reza

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
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Hi,

Those are question for pythia6/pythia8. Pythia6 being not supported anymore since ~10 years and even not compatible with modern compiler -- I can not compile it on my laptop for example--. You will have to use Pythia8 (or Herwig7)

Cheers,

Olivier

> On 25 Jul 2021, at 08:20, Reza Jafari <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> New question #698139 on MadGraph5_aMC@NLO:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/mg5amcnlo/+question/698139
>
> Dear Experts,
>
> I am trying to generate data for the process of e- p > vl j t~ with p = p b b~.
> In the MadGraph level everything is fine. But when I switch Pythia6 on, there is not any event in the output file.
> Is there any solution for this problem?
>
> Note: As pythia8 is not compatible for ep collision, I use pythia6 and I receive these messages:
> INFO: Pythia6 needs a specific normalisation of the events. We will change it accordingly.
> INFO: modify parameter event_norm of the run_card.dat to sum
>
> In general, is there any new update in MadGraph shell to perform showering and hadronization for ep collisions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
> Reza
>
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> You received this question notification because you are an answer
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Reza Jafari (reza13) said :
#2

Dear Olivier,

Thanks for your prompt answer.
I am using pethia8 in all cases. But I've heard pythia8 is not compatible for ep collision.

Cheers,

Reza

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
#3

I'm not aware of that but I'm not an expert on that kind of physics (especially for the parton-shower part)

Cheers,

Olivier

> On 25 Jul 2021, at 09:25, Reza Jafari <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Question #698139 on MadGraph5_aMC@NLO changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/mg5amcnlo/+question/698139
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> Reza Jafari posted a new comment:
> Dear Olivier,
>
> Thanks for your prompt answer.
> I am using pethia8 in all cases. But I've heard pythia8 is not compatible for ep collision.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reza
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you are an answer
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lyb (liuyaobei) said :
#4

Hi Reza,
I have same question when using MadGraph + pythia8 +Delphes to generate events at ep collider.

How did you solve it?

Best
Yao-Bei

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Reza Jafari (reza13) said :
#5

Hi lyb,

To solve this issue, I used the default pythia8 card finally and did the following commands:

1- Using "p e" instead of "e p" in MadGraph5 to generate events.
2- Use "weighted<=99" option after my command for simulating events, i.e. "generate p e- > vl j t~ weighted<=99". It helps to remain some events in the output instead of an empty file, and you can manage your simulation by using multi_run command in MadGraph5 to generate more events to have a suitable sample of events after passing in pythia8.

By the way, I had communicated with Pythia8 authors, but no solution was given finally. However, they believe pythia8 is compatible for all ep collision events.

Best,
Reza

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