Generated events depend on pT cut

Asked by Oscar Ochoa Valeriano

Dear MadGraph experts,

I'm looking into the process e+ e- > l+ l- j j / h , as a background to single-Higgs production via ZBF. At the cuts.f level, I require the product of the leptons' rapidities to be negative in order to ensure that they are in opposite regions of the detector. To make sure that as much PS is covered as possible, at the run_card level I set the minimum pT of the final-state objects (leptons and jets) to be 0.5 GeV, and their \eta < 5.0. A further cut on the invariant mass of the dilepton system is required for several centre-of-mass energies, namely \sqrt{s} = {1, 3} TeV => mmll = {300, 1000} GeV respectively. The hard_survey flag is set to 1.

With this minimal set of cuts, I find that MadGraph either gets stuck refining events, or simply fails to reach target by a huge margin. After playing a while, I noticed that hardening the pT cut of the jets solves the issue (say, for 1 TeV I had to set ptj = 20 GeV, and to 60 GeV for 3 TeV), but on doing so I'm skewing the samples and hence introducing unwanted bias to the analysis. Please find below the banner of the latter case. NOTE: This is not the case for other backgrounds, such as lla, where the looser cuts (pta = 0.5 GeV) give no trouble.

Any ideas of why such a loose cut might be troublesome for MadGraph, and any tips on how to overcome this situation without skewing the samples?

Best wishes,

Oscar.

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
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Hi,

1) Are cross-section physical with such low cut? It is clear that at some point if you try to probe the singular regime of the amplitude the efficiency of the computation will drop.

2) Did you read 2102.00773? That paper will give you a lot of advise on parameter that you can use to improve the situation.
(the main advise being use a more recent version of the code and if not enough check at the new parameter described in the appendix of the paper)

Cheers,

Olivier

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