process h > g g g surprisingly inefficient

Asked by Stephen Mrenna

I am studying the process h > g g g using:
import model heft
generate h > g g g HIG=1
I use:
1= ckkw
10.0 = xqcut
0 = lpp1
0 = lpp2 (don't know if these matter)
125.0 = scale

With a target of 10k events, I am getting typically 70-80 at the end. This doesn't sound right, and is discouraging, since I am aiming for 100k or so, plus want to also add in h > g g g g.
I don't find the treatment of decays as well documented as for processes (but maybe this is my ignorance).
Any suggestions on what I might do to increase the efficiency?

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Stephen Mrenna (stephen-mrenna) said :
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As a followup, I bypassed the ckkw/xqcut flags (set them to 0.0) and set only an mjj cut.
This was lightning fast and very efficient.
I assume that all the powers of alpha_s are evaluated at 125 GeV, which is not ideal.
So, the real question is this: can I generate this process with a kT-cut (or custom cut), and also get the alpha_s reweighting at the vertex, AND maintain the high efficiency.

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
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Hi,

I will need to look at the MLM support code to see how much it can handle 1>N.
In general final state radiation (from Z/Higgs/...) are not part of the MLM matching/merging mechanism.
So I have some doubt (and your result seems to confirm that) that the code is supported such kind of MLM process.

Being able to handle this case would make a lot of sense but I need to look at the code to see how much this will be easy/difficult to do. (I hope to be able to do that on Thursday)

Cheers,

Olivier

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> As a followup, I bypassed the ckkw/xqcut flags (set them to 0.0) and set only an mjj cut.
> This was lightning fast and very efficient.
> I assume that all the powers of alpha_s are evaluated at 125 GeV, which is not ideal.
> So, the real question is this: can I generate this process with a kT-cut (or custom cut), and also get the alpha_s reweighting at the vertex, AND maintain the high efficiency.
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Stephen Mrenna (stephen-mrenna) said :
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Thank you!
As far as I can tell, all the interesting stuff is happening in reweight.f.
Best,
Steve

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