Default dynamical scale choice is crashing

Asked by Ennio Salvioni

Hi,

I have implemented a Feynrules model where beyond the SM appear 3 new particles, called "etameson", "chimeson" and "upsmeson". I do

generate p p > etameson chimeson, etameson > b b~, chimeson > e- e+ mu- mu+ QED=1 @1 (***)
add process p p > etameson chimeson j, etameson > b b~, chimeson > e- e+ mu- mu+ QED=1 @2

To clarify what I am doing, the leading process (***) is shown in the diagram here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zqr79qhct6e5hsg/matrix1.ps.pdf?dl=0 . Note that there is a BSM 4-particle coupling [etameson-upsmeson-electron-positron] that takes part in the amplitude. When I launch the computation, it crashes and prints to screen the text reported at the end of this message.

I think I know the source of the problem: as discussed already in questions #1807699 and #676416, it is due to the fact that MGaMC introduces a fake particle (with PDG code 7) in order to be able to perform the phase-space integration, but such technique is not compatible with the default scale choice for mur and muf (i.e. dynamical_scale_choice = -1 in run_card). The recommended fix in those other questions, was to make a different choice for the scales, and indeed taking dynamical_scale_choice = 3 solves the issue for me when I consider the leading order process (***) alone. But now I want to generate a sample with MLM jet merging as above, and in this case I always get the error, for all scale choices (I tried all the dynamical ones: -1, 1, 2, 3, 4 as well as the fixed ones). This happens both in versions 2.6.4 and 2.6.5.

Is there a way that this problem can be circumvented?

Thank you,

Ennio

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survey run_01
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Creating Jobs
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INFO: P2_gq_etamesonchimesonq_etameson_bbx_chimeson_llll
INFO: P2_qq_etamesonchimesong_etameson_bbx_chimeson_llll
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rm: results.dat: No such file or directory
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INFO: P1_qq_etamesonchimeson_etameson_bbx_chimeson_llll
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rm: results.dat: No such file or directory
ERROR DETECTED
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INFO: Idle: 0, Running: 1, Completed: 2 [ current time: 11h07 ]
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rm: results.dat: No such file or directory
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Error when reading /Users/enniosalvioni/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_6_4/bin/Zdecays_pp_new3_matched/SubProcesses/P2_gq_etamesonchimesonq_etameson_bbx_chimeson_llll/G1/results.dat
Command "generate_events run_01" interrupted with error:
Exception : Reported error: End code 3.0
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        NNPDFDriver version 1.0.3
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  New value of alpha_s from PDF nn23lo1: 0.13000000000000000
  Warning! ptj set to xqcut= 30.000000000000000 to improve integration efficiency
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  mdl_Gf = 1.1663700000000000E-005
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  mdl_ymb = 4.7000000000000002
  mdl_ymt = 173.00000000000000
  mdl_ymtau = 1.7769999999999999
  mdl_gZce = 7.0000000000000001E-003
  mdl_gbbe = 1.0000000000000001E-005
  mdl_Lcuff = 1.0000000000000000E-002
  mdl_vmu = 0.0000000000000000
  mdl_amu = -2.0000000000000002E-005
  mdl_MZ = 91.187600000000003
  mdl_MTA = 1.7769999999999999
  mdl_MT = 173.00000000000000
  mdl_MB = 4.7000000000000002
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  mdl_Meta = 24.000000000000000
  mdl_Mups = 25.000000000000000
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  mdl_Wchi = 1.0000000000000000E-004
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  mdl_Wups = 1.0000000000000000E-004
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  mdl_MZ__exp__4 = 69142191.720053151
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  Transforming s_hat 1/s 18 4.1748497094674567E-005 900.00000000000000 168999999.99999997
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   Particle 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
       Et > 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 30.0
        E > 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
      Eta < -1.0 -1.0 -1.0 -1.0 -1.0 -1.0 5.0
    xqcut: 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 30.0
 d R # 3 > -0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 d R # 4 > -0.0 -0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 d R # 5 > -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 d R # 6 > -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 d R # 7 > -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 0.0 0.0
 d R # 8 > -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 0.0
 s min # 3> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 s min # 4> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 s min # 5> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 s min # 6> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
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 s min # 8> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
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 xqcutij # 8> 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
  No cut BW -1 1
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  No cut BW -5 4
            7 > -11 9000007 color 2 > 1 1
  failed for ipartupdate. Please retry without MLM/default dynamical scale
 STOP 3

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 input_app.txt
 log.txt
 run1_app.log

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
#1

Hi,

You can test if this patch/tarball fix your issue:

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mg5core1/mg5amcnlo/2.6.6/revision/288

Cheers,

Olivier

On 22 Feb 2019, at 12:08, Ennio Salvioni <<email address hidden><mailto:<email address hidden>>> wrote:

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Ennio Salvioni (enniosalvioni) said :
#2

Hi Olivier,

Thank you very much for the answer! Indeed the version you shared solves the problem. I am now able to run the desired samples, simply keeping the default dynamical_scale_choice = -1 in run_card.

This is great, thank you so much again for helping out!

Best,

Ennio