tau decays

Asked by A.Hayreter

Hello everyone,

My problem is pretty much related with one of my previous questions (#227597).
I am working on tau decays, here is what I do;

import model sm-full
generate p p > ta+ ta-

@14TeV the tau-pair production cross section is 942.4 pb. Then, with the well known
branching ratio of br(ta- > mu- vm~ vt) = %17.41, I like to find leptonic decays of taus
with 942.4*0.1741^2 = 28.56 pb. So as the next step I do;

import model sm-full
generate p p > ta+ ta- ,\
(ta+ > vt~ mu+ vm) ,\
(ta- > vt mu- vm~)

I modify tau width (as Olivier suggested previously) 2.27x10^-12 ---> 2.27x10^-05
and set cut_decays F in run_card. The result is 1.119e-11, (which will be rescaled with 10^14)
and becomes 1119 pb. !!!!!!!

if I use default cuts on decay products then the result is 6.84e-14, and rescaling back with 10^14
becomes 6.84 pb.

I know that photon and Z interferes in s-channel, but why this interference should effect the results?
Why are these results not consistent? what am I missing here? And what would be the best way
to keep track of tau decays?

thanks in advance.

Alper.

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Assignee:
Kentarou Mawatari Edit question
Solved by:
Olivier Mattelaer
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Kentarou Mawatari (kentarou-mawatari) said :
#1

Hi Alper and Olivier,

I reproduced the problem with the default tau width, but not at e+ e- > ta- ta+, where I got the expected result.
Let me investigate it further.

cheers,
Kentarou

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A.Hayreter (alperhayreter) said :
#2

Hi Kentarou,
Do you have any progress?
I would like to know if you have any.

Cheers.

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
#3

Hi Alper,

I was meeting Kentarou today and we look together on this problem.
The reason of the difference are the pt cut on the tau that you include in the
generate p p > ta+ ta-
but that you do not have in the
 import model sm-full
generate p p > ta+ ta- ,\
(ta+ > vt~ mu+ vm) ,\
(ta- > vt mu- vm~)

If you remove the cut for the first generation, it looks much more reasonable.

Cheers,

Olivier

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A.Hayreter (alperhayreter) said :
#4

Hi Olivier,

I didn't know that we could have control on cuts for pair production (I mean not on decay products).
So then how do I remove cuts on p p > ta+ ta- part only? Setting False on cut_decays in run_card does
not make any difference.

Best.

Alper

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Best Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
#5

In this case, you are force to go line by line in the run_card.dat

in this case, you have to put
ptl to 0
and etal to -1

Cheers,

Olivier

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A.Hayreter (alperhayreter) said :
#6

Thanks Olivier Mattelaer, that solved my question.