unrealisitically high cross section with strange drastic reduction of events

Asked by Peter Winslow

Hi,

I've implemented a very simple model for lepton number violation at the LHC with 2 new states: a scalar (NS) with Q=1 and a majorana fermion (F0). Both have masses of 1 TeV but the scalar has a finite width (120 GeV) while the majorana fermion has zero width. There are only 2 interactions, i.e., ubar d NS and ebar F0 NS^*, both with couplings equal to 1 (F0 can decay through the second interaction when the mass of NS is less than F0 but not when they're degenerate). I generate the process p p > j j e- e- which proceeds through 2 kinds of graphs: 1) t-channel exchange of both NS and F0 and 2) s-channel production of NS to F0 and e- followed by off-shell decay of F0 to e- NS --> e- u dbar. The resulting cross section is unrealistically high (~10^10 pb) and had a strange drastic reduction of events (I specified 10000 but only ended up getting 22). This is all happening at the parton level.

I'm not sure why this is happening, can you please help me understand what is causing the problem? I thought at one point that it may have something to do with the zero width of F0 when the masses are degenerate but is there no way to handle off-shell decays in the limit of degeneracy?

Thanks very much in advance for any/all advice you may have.

Best,
Peter

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Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
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Hi,

Did you look at the following FAQ?
https://answers.launchpad.net/madgraph5/+faq/1987

In short a particle with a zero width shouldn't be allow to decay (since then by definition the width is not zero)

Cheers,

Olivier
On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Peter Winslow <email address hidden> wrote:

> New question #239002 on MadGraph5:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/madgraph5/+question/239002
>
> Hi,
>
> I've implemented a very simple model for lepton number violation at the LHC with 2 new states: a scalar (NS) with Q=1 and a majorana fermion (F0). Both have masses of 1 TeV but the scalar has a finite width (120 GeV) while the majorana fermion has zero width. There are only 2 interactions, i.e., ubar d NS and ebar F0 NS^*, both with couplings equal to 1 (F0 can decay through the second interaction when the mass of NS is less than F0 but not when they're degenerate). I generate the process p p > j j e- e- which proceeds through 2 kinds of graphs: 1) t-channel exchange of both NS and F0 and 2) s-channel production of NS to F0 and e- followed by off-shell decay of F0 to e- NS --> e- u dbar. The resulting cross section is unrealistically high (~10^10 pb) and had a strange drastic reduction of events (I specified 10000 but only ended up getting 22). This is all happening at the parton level.
>
> I'm not sure why this is happening, can you please help me understand what is causing the problem? I thought at one point that it may have something to do with the zero width of F0 when the masses are degenerate but is there no way to handle off-shell decays in the limit of degeneracy?
>
> Thanks very much in advance for any/all advice you may have.
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
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