including coannihilation

Hi Chrisna,

Thank you for your interest in using MadDM!
To answer your questions briefly:

1. To include coannihilations you should use the command "add coannihilations".
2. In the current public version there is only direct detection and directional detection in addition to relic density. Indirect detection is in the pipes.
3. The tutorial on the webpage you cited is obsolete. Many things have changed since then.

As I recently quit physics, and am not actively involved with MadDM anymore, I'll refer you to Olivier Mattelaer who continues to develop MadDM. He should be able to give you more advice on the functionality.

Best regards,

Mihailo

> On 15 Jan 2018, at 10:42, chrisna setyo nugroho <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> New question #663091 on MadDM:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Hello my name is chrisna. I read from the quick tutorial page about how to run maddm , the command are the following :
>
> import model DMsimp
> define darkmatter xd #This command is only necessary if you want to 'force' a DM candidate
> generate relic_density #You can also exclude particles with the '/' syntax
> add direct_detection
> output DMsimp
> launch
>
> 1. I am wondering about the command that i should type if i want to include coannihilation.
>
> 2. I also want to know whether there are another relevant commands to do computation in dark matter stuff.
>
> 3. What is the difference to use maddm in the quick tutorial page i wrote above and the one available on this page :
>
> http://susy.phsx.ku.edu/~mihailo/tutorial.html
>
> I follow the instructions on this page, but keep getting error , the error is the following :
>
>
> ------ Creating the Numerical Session ------
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "./maddm.py", line 36, in <module>
> dm.CreateNumericalSession()
> File "/home/chrisna/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_5_4/maddm/darkmatter.py", line 1194, in CreateNumericalSession
> self._exporter = MGoutput.ProcessExporterFortranMadDM(self._mgme_dir, self._projectpath)
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ProcessExporterFortranMadDM'
> chrisna@chrisna-setyo:~/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_5_4/maddm$
>
>
> Thank You very much for yor help.
>
>
> Best,
>
> chrisna
>
>
>
>
> --
> You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> answer contact for MadDM.

Dear Sir,

Thank You for your reply. I would like to know more about another commands
in maddm. The command

add coannihilations

is new to me. Is there any other commands that I don't know, or where can I
find those commands in some references.

I hope You will find a very good opportunity and chances in your new career
:).

Best regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Jan 15, 2018 8:09 PM, "Mihailo Backovic" <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Mihailo Backovic proposed the following answer:
> Hi Chrisna,
>
> Thank you for your interest in using MadDM!
> To answer your questions briefly:
>
> 1. To include coannihilations you should use the command "add
> coannihilations".
> 2. In the current public version there is only direct detection and
> directional detection in addition to relic density. Indirect detection is
> in the pipes.
> 3. The tutorial on the webpage you cited is obsolete. Many things have
> changed since then.
>
> As I recently quit physics, and am not actively involved with MadDM
> anymore, I'll refer you to Olivier Mattelaer who continues to develop
> MadDM. He should be able to give you more advice on the functionality.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mihailo
>
> > On 15 Jan 2018, at 10:42, chrisna setyo nugroho <question663091@answers.
> launchpad.net> wrote:
> >
> > New question #663091 on MadDM:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > Dear Sir,
> >
> > Hello my name is chrisna. I read from the quick tutorial page about how
> to run maddm , the command are the following :
> >
> > import model DMsimp
> > define darkmatter xd #This command is only necessary if you want
> to 'force' a DM candidate
> > generate relic_density #You can also exclude particles with the
> '/' syntax
> > add direct_detection
> > output DMsimp
> > launch
> >
> > 1. I am wondering about the command that i should type if i want to
> include coannihilation.
> >
> > 2. I also want to know whether there are another relevant commands to do
> computation in dark matter stuff.
> >
> > 3. What is the difference to use maddm in the quick tutorial page i
> wrote above and the one available on this page :
> >
> > http://susy.phsx.ku.edu/~mihailo/tutorial.html
> >
> > I follow the instructions on this page, but keep getting error , the
> error is the following :
> >
> >
> > ------ Creating the Numerical Session ------
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "./maddm.py", line 36, in <module>
> > dm.CreateNumericalSession()
> > File "/home/chrisna/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_5_4/maddm/darkmatter.py",
> line 1194, in CreateNumericalSession
> > self._exporter = MGoutput.ProcessExporterFortranMadDM(self._mgme_dir,
> self._projectpath)
> > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute
> 'ProcessExporterFortranMadDM'
> > chrisna@chrisna-setyo:~/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_5_4/maddm$
> >
> >
> > Thank You very much for yor help.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > chrisna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> > answer contact for MadDM.
>
> --
> If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
> know that it is solved:
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>
> If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
> following page to enter your feedback:
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> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
>

Dear Sir,

when i do as you says : add coannihilations

it gives me error. Are You sure that's the correct command?

i did the following :

define dark matter d2
generate relic_density
add coannihilations

then give me some error like this :

syntax:
 o add model MODELNAME [OPTIONS]
 o Example: add model taudecay
 > Merge the two model in a single one. If that same merge was done before.
 > Just reload the previous merge. (WARNING: This doesn't check if those
model are modified)
 > Options:
   --output= : Specify the name of the directory where the merge is done.
                This allow to do "import NAME" to load that merge.
   --recreate : Force to recreated the merge model even if the merge model
directory already exists.
Command "add coannihilations" interrupted with error:
InvalidCmd : "add" requires at least two arguments
MG5_aMC>add direct_detection
INFO: Generating X Nucleon > X Nucleon diagrams from the full lagrangian...
INFO: Trying process: d2 d

Thank you

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 8:22 PM, chrisna setyo nugroho <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> You are still having a problem:
> Dear Sir,
>
> Thank You for your reply. I would like to know more about another commands
> in maddm. The command
>
> add coannihilations
>
> is new to me. Is there any other commands that I don't know, or where can I
> find those commands in some references.
>
> I hope You will find a very good opportunity and chances in your new career
> :).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
>
> On Jan 15, 2018 8:09 PM, "Mihailo Backovic" <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
> > Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > Status: Open => Answered
> >
> > Mihailo Backovic proposed the following answer:
> > Hi Chrisna,
> >
> > Thank you for your interest in using MadDM!
> > To answer your questions briefly:
> >
> > 1. To include coannihilations you should use the command "add
> > coannihilations".
> > 2. In the current public version there is only direct detection and
> > directional detection in addition to relic density. Indirect detection is
> > in the pipes.
> > 3. The tutorial on the webpage you cited is obsolete. Many things have
> > changed since then.
> >
> > As I recently quit physics, and am not actively involved with MadDM
> > anymore, I'll refer you to Olivier Mattelaer who continues to develop
> > MadDM. He should be able to give you more advice on the functionality.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mihailo
> >
> > > On 15 Jan 2018, at 10:42, chrisna setyo nugroho
> <question663091@answers.
> > launchpad.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > New question #663091 on MadDM:
> > > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> > >
> > > Dear Sir,
> > >
> > > Hello my name is chrisna. I read from the quick tutorial page about how
> > to run maddm , the command are the following :
> > >
> > > import model DMsimp
> > > define darkmatter xd #This command is only necessary if you want
> > to 'force' a DM candidate
> > > generate relic_density #You can also exclude particles with the
> > '/' syntax
> > > add direct_detection
> > > output DMsimp
> > > launch
> > >
> > > 1. I am wondering about the command that i should type if i want to
> > include coannihilation.
> > >
> > > 2. I also want to know whether there are another relevant commands to
> do
> > computation in dark matter stuff.
> > >
> > > 3. What is the difference to use maddm in the quick tutorial page i
> > wrote above and the one available on this page :
> > >
> > > http://susy.phsx.ku.edu/~mihailo/tutorial.html
> > >
> > > I follow the instructions on this page, but keep getting error , the
> > error is the following :
> > >
> > >
> > > ------ Creating the Numerical Session ------
> > > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > > File "./maddm.py", line 36, in <module>
> > > dm.CreateNumericalSession()
> > > File "/home/chrisna/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_5_4/maddm/darkmatter.py",
> > line 1194, in CreateNumericalSession
> > > self._exporter = MGoutput.ProcessExporterFortranMadDM(
> self._mgme_dir,
> > self._projectpath)
> > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute
> > 'ProcessExporterFortranMadDM'
> > > chrisna@chrisna-setyo:~/Documents/MG5_aMC_v2_5_4/maddm$
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank You very much for yor help.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > chrisna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> > > answer contact for MadDM.
> >
> > --
> > If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
> > know that it is solved:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091/+
> confirm?answer_id=0
> >
> > If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
> > following page to enter your feedback:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > You received this question notification because you asked the question.
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Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for your answer. It solves the problem. Sorry for the very late reply.

I do have another question regarding the direct detection part of the maddm. Recently, i am working on the Isospin Violating dark matter project. The interaction of the dark matter particle with the proton is different with those of neutron.

If i want to compare the result with recenlt Xenon 1T 2018 data, i need to compare in the nucleus level, since the result of the experiment was taken by assuming the Isospin Conserving interaction.

My question is : in maddm, how do we know the relative sign between fp (form factor of DM interaction with proton) and fn (form factor of DM interaction with neutron) ? because as i read from the literature, they can be differ by minus sign.

For example, in Z mediated interaction dark matter with the nucleon :

fn/fp = -12.5

as in equation (2) of 1711.01644.

Thank You so much for your help.

Best Regards,

Chrisna

Hi,

I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in the maddm_card?

# Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
# - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
# - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
# - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
# - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs

This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand correctly.

Cheers,

Olivier

Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ? Because i
want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter direct
detection. Thank You for your help.

Best Regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in the
> maddm_card?
>
> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
>
> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
> correctly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Olivier
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
>

Hi,

The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.

Cheers,

Olivier

> On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> Dear Sir Olivier,
>
> Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
> relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ? Because i
> want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter direct
> detection. Thank You for your help.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
>> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>>
>> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
>> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in the
>> maddm_card?
>>
>> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
>> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
>> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
>> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
>> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
>>
>> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
>> correctly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> --
>> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
>>
>
> --
> You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> answer contact for MadDM.

Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for your answer. I tried to generate it but without generating
relic density first, otherwise the diagram will include those that
contribute to relic density.

In direct detection of DM, i see that the diagrams contain tree level as
well as four point interaction with a Blob vertices. Does it means, the
maddm also include loop diagrams? If that so, which loop diagram is
considered in this case? Thank You very much for your help.

Best,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> Hi,
>
> The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Olivier
>
> > On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho <question663091@answers.
> launchpad.net> wrote:
> >
> > Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> > Dear Sir Olivier,
> >
> > Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
> > relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ?
> Because i
> > want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter
> direct
> > detection. Thank You for your help.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> >> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >>
> >> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
> >> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in the
> >> maddm_card?
> >>
> >> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
> >> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
> >> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
> >> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
> >> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
> >>
> >> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
> >> correctly.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >> --
> >> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
> >>
> >
> > --
> > You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> > answer contact for MadDM.
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
>

Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for your answer. I tried to generate it but without generating
relic density first, otherwise the diagram will include those that
contribute to relic density.

In direct detection of DM, i see that the diagrams contain tree level as
well as four point interaction with a Blob vertices. Does it means, the
maddm also include loop diagrams? If that so, which loop diagram is
considered in this case? Thank You very much for your help.

Best,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> Hi,
>
> The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Olivier
>
> > On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho <question663091@answers.
> launchpad.net> wrote:
> >
> > Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> > Dear Sir Olivier,
> >
> > Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
> > relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ?
> Because i
> > want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter
> direct
> > detection. Thank You for your help.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> >> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >>
> >> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
> >> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in the
> >> maddm_card?
> >>
> >> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
> >> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
> >> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
> >> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
> >> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
> >>
> >> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
> >> correctly.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >> --
> >> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
> >>
> >
> > --
> > You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> > answer contact for MadDM.
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
>

Hi,

No they are no loop computation, this is a contact term, represented by a blob since this is not a Standard Model interaction.

Cheers,

Olivier

________________________________
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Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:28:47 AM
To: Olivier Mattelaer
Subject: Re: [Question #663091]: including coannihilation

Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for your answer. I tried to generate it but without generating
relic density first, otherwise the diagram will include those that
contribute to relic density.

In direct detection of DM, i see that the diagrams contain tree level as
well as four point interaction with a Blob vertices. Does it means, the
maddm also include loop diagrams? If that so, which loop diagram is
considered in this case? Thank You very much for your help.

Best,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> Hi,
>
> The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Olivier
>
> > On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho <question663091@answers.
> launchpad.net> wrote:
> >
> > Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> > Dear Sir Olivier,
> >
> > Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
> > relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ?
> Because i
> > want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter
> direct
> > detection. Thank You for your help.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> >> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >>
> >> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
> >> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in the
> >> maddm_card?
> >>
> >> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
> >> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
> >> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
> >> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
> >> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
> >>
> >> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
> >> correctly.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >> --
> >> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
> >>
> >
> > --
> > You received this question notification because your team maddm is an
> > answer contact for MadDM.
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you asked the question.
>

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Dear Sir Olivier,

Oh okay Sir,thank You very much. I was wondering if the maddm also include
one loop process in direct detection calculation.

Best regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:53 PM Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> Hi,
>
>
> No they are no loop computation, this is a contact term, represented by a
> blob since this is not a Standard Model interaction.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Olivier
>
> ________________________________
> From: <email address hidden> <email address hidden> on behalf of chrisna
> setyo nugroho <email address hidden>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:28:47 AM
> To: Olivier Mattelaer
> Subject: Re: [Question #663091]: including coannihilation
>
> Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> Dear Sir Olivier,
>
> Thank You for your answer. I tried to generate it but without generating
> relic density first, otherwise the diagram will include those that
> contribute to relic density.
>
> In direct detection of DM, i see that the diagrams contain tree level as
> well as four point interaction with a Blob vertices. Does it means, the
> maddm also include loop diagrams? If that so, which loop diagram is
> considered in this case? Thank You very much for your help.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
> > Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > > On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho
> <question663091@answers.
> > launchpad.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> > >
> > > chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> > > Dear Sir Olivier,
> > >
> > > Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
> > > relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ?
> > Because i
> > > want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter
> > direct
> > > detection. Thank You for your help.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> > > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > >> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> > >>
> > >> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
> > >> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in
> the
> > >> maddm_card?
> > >>
> > >> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
> > >> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
> > >> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
> > >> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
> > >> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
> > >>
> > >> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
> > >> correctly.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Olivier
> > >>
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Dear Sir Olivier,

Good Morning Sir. I have another question about the typical and maximum
energy transfer in dark matter-nucleon elastic scattering. In typical dark
matter-nucleon scattering (valid for the direct detection of DM), what is
the typical and maxium energy transfer of the dark matter to nucleon? What
is the range of the energy transfer that maddm use in its code? Thank You.

Best Regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:07 PM, chrisna setyo nugroho <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
>
> chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> Dear Sir Olivier,
>
> Oh okay Sir,thank You very much. I was wondering if the maddm also include
> one loop process in direct detection calculation.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:53 PM Olivier Mattelaer <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
> > Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > No they are no loop computation, this is a contact term, represented by a
> > blob since this is not a Standard Model interaction.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: <email address hidden> <email address hidden> on behalf of chrisna
> > setyo nugroho <email address hidden>
> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:28:47 AM
> > To: Olivier Mattelaer
> > Subject: Re: [Question #663091]: including coannihilation
> >
> > Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> >
> > chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> > Dear Sir Olivier,
> >
> > Thank You for your answer. I tried to generate it but without generating
> > relic density first, otherwise the diagram will include those that
> > contribute to relic density.
> >
> > In direct detection of DM, i see that the diagrams contain tree level as
> > well as four point interaction with a Blob vertices. Does it means, the
> > maddm also include loop diagrams? If that so, which loop diagram is
> > considered in this case? Thank You very much for your help.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> >
> > > Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> > >
> > > Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > > > On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho
> > <question663091@answers.
> > > launchpad.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > > > https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> > > >
> > > > chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
> > > > Dear Sir Olivier,
> > > >
> > > > Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
> > > > relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ?
> > > Because i
> > > > want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter
> > > direct
> > > > detection. Thank You for your help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Chrisna Setyo Nugroho
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
> > > > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
> > > >> https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091
> > > >>
> > > >> Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
> > > >> But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in
> > the
> > > >> maddm_card?
> > > >>
> > > >> # Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
> > > >> # - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
> > > >> # - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
> > > >> # - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
> > > >> # - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs
> > > >>
> > > >> This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
> > > >> correctly.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> Olivier
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> You received this question notification because you asked the
> > question.
> > > >>
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Hi,

I'm not a Dark Matter expert actually.
You should look at the following paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1505.04190
There you have different example (for example Fig 5) where you can see typical range.

Cheers,

Olivier

On 22 Aug 2018, at 04:02, chrisna setyo nugroho <<email address hidden><mailto:<email address hidden>>> wrote:

Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
Dear Sir Olivier,

Good Morning Sir. I have another question about the typical and maximum
energy transfer in dark matter-nucleon elastic scattering. In typical dark
matter-nucleon scattering (valid for the direct detection of DM), what is
the typical and maxium energy transfer of the dark matter to nucleon? What
is the range of the energy transfer that maddm use in its code? Thank You.

Best Regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:07 PM, chrisna setyo nugroho <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
Dear Sir Olivier,

Oh okay Sir,thank You very much. I was wondering if the maddm also include
one loop process in direct detection calculation.

Best regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:53 PM Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
Hi,

No they are no loop computation, this is a contact term, represented by a
blob since this is not a Standard Model interaction.

Cheers,

Olivier

________________________________
From: <email address hidden> <email address hidden> on behalf of chrisna
setyo nugroho <email address hidden>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:28:47 AM
To: Olivier Mattelaer
Subject: Re: [Question #663091]: including coannihilation

Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for your answer. I tried to generate it but without generating
relic density first, otherwise the diagram will include those that
contribute to relic density.

In direct detection of DM, i see that the diagrams contain tree level as
well as four point interaction with a Blob vertices. Does it means, the
maddm also include loop diagrams? If that so, which loop diagram is
considered in this case? Thank You very much for your help.

Best,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
Hi,

The command display diagrams should is the one you are looking for.

Cheers,

Olivier

On 11 Aug 2018, at 09:44, chrisna setyo nugroho
<question663091@answers.
launchpad.net> wrote:

Question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

chrisna setyo nugroho posted a new comment:
Dear Sir Olivier,

Thank You for the answer. I do have one more question, can we see the
relevant Feynman diagrams when we generate the direct detection ?
Because i
want to know what is the Feynman diagram for calculating dark matter
direct
detection. Thank You for your help.

Best Regards,

Chrisna Setyo Nugroho

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olivier Mattelaer <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

Your question #663091 on MadDM changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/maddm/+question/663091

Olivier Mattelaer posted a new comment:
Hi,

I'm not an expert of that part of the code.
But did you see that you can specifiy all the following parameter in
the
maddm_card?

# Nuclear form factor can be customised via parameters:
# - scalar: SPu, SPd, SPs, SPg // SNu, SNd, SNs, SNg
# - vector: VPu, VPd // VNu, VNd
# - axial vector: AVPu, AVPd, AVPs // AVNu, AVNd, AVNs
# - Sigma(mu,nu): SigPu, SigPd, SigPs // SigNu, SigNd, SigNs

This should allow to specify the ratio as you want. If I understand
correctly.

Cheers,

Olivier

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