Signal efficiency calculation

Asked by Saumyen Kundu

Hi,

I was trying to implement some selection cuts in MA5v1.7.21 in reco-mode using root files.

In the cut-flow table for 'Initial (no cut)' case, Signal (S) and Background (B) are respectively, 1.04 and 2.07. Do I understand it correctly that these are basically the number of signal and background events before any cuts are implemented? I noticed that this is the same as 'Events kept: K' when due to a particular cut 'Rejected events: R' is 0.0.

Now for this case in the input datasets, the event numbers for Signal and Backgrounds are respectively, 36304 and 42768. Then my question is why these values of 'S' and 'B' are coming so small? So, basically I wanted to know how these 'K' and 'R' or 'S' and 'B' are calculated in MA5?

I tried 3 different configurations with cross-section and luminosity:
1. giving the user-defined value luminosity and default cross-section.
2. giving both the luminosity and cross-section by hand.
3. letting both luminosity and cross-section to be the default.

But, these values are the same. So, it'll be helpful to know how this is computed in MA5.

Thanks and regards,
Saumyen

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Benjamin Fuks (fuks) said :
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Hi Saumyen,

> In the cut-flow table for 'Initial (no cut)' case, Signal (S) and Background (B) are respectively, 1.04 and 2.07. Do I understand it correctly that these are basically the number of signal and background events before any cuts are implemented?
Yes they are.

> I noticed that this is the same as 'Events kept: K' when due to a particular cut 'Rejected events: R' is 0.0.
If you reject nothing, then the numbers do not vary. Would you expect a different behaviour?

> Now for this case in the input datasets, the event numbers for Signal and Backgrounds are respectively, 36304 and 42768. Then my question is why these values of 'S' and 'B' are coming so small? So, basically I wanted to know how these 'K' and 'R' or 'S' and 'B' are calculated in MA5?
It depends how the S/B ratio has been calculated. There are several formulas to calculate this number, the default being S / \sqrt{S+B}. You can change them via the "fom formula" option.

Best regards,

Benjamin

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Saumyen Kundu (saumyen.k) said :
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Hi Benjamin,

Thanks a lot for your reply and I'm extremely sorry for the so very late response. I was on vacation. :P

>If you reject nothing, then the numbers do not vary. Would you expect a different behaviour?

No no. This I said to tell you how I inferred what I said. Now, my concern is that even if there are a large number of events in my dataset (almost 37K) why I'm getting such small values of 'S' and 'B' like 1.04 and 2.07, respectively when there is NO CUT applied.

>It depends how the S/B ratio has been calculated. There are several formulas to calculate this number, the default being S / \sqrt{S+B}. You can change them via the "fom formula" option.

This is also fine. I had chosen "fom formula=4", i.e, S / \sqrt{S+B}. Right? But my concern is the same that how these 'S' and 'B' and/or 'K' and 'R' are being calculated that it's coming so small even if I have a large number of events.

Thanks and regards,
Saumyen

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Benjamin Fuks (fuks) said :
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Hi Saumyen,

No worries for the delayed answer :)

> This is also fine. I had chosen "fom formula=4", i.e, S / \sqrt{S+B}.
> Right? But my concern is the same that how these 'S' and 'B' and/or 'K'
> and 'R' are being calculated that it's coming so small even if I have a
> large number of events.

Having a large number of events is not sufficient. The S/\sqrt{S+B} ratio depends on
(a) the cross section of the signal and background processes (a reweighting is applied)
(b) the considered luminosity (the larger it is, the better it is to get a large significance).

Cheers,

Benjamin

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