Request to create a project Ubuntu Unity Experience

Asked by ventrical on 2017-11-25

Name of group: Ubuntu Unity Experience
http://launchpad.net/dale-f-beaudoin

A maintenance and development group for unity (n) continuance.

We will be forming a group that will be maintaining the current unity-session in 18.04 while concurrently setting up the frameworks for unity 7 Desktop Experience to become an official flavor.

Examples of Projects:

*Enhance and improve current assistive technologies as per RSI reduction research an implementation.
*Include app viacam as a default program for testing throughout the cycle
*Incorporate ubuntu-mate patches and test ubuntu-mate-software center for integration with ubuntu-unity

Owner: https://launchpad.net/~unity7maintainers

Other- we are following directions and advice from Martin Wimpress and Will Cooke who are both members of the unity7maintainers team.

Regards..

Dale F. Beaudoin

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William Grant (wgrant) said : #1

Do you have examples of projects that would be within the ubuntu-unity project group? A project group isn't very useful on its own, and I'd like to confirm it's really what you want here.

ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #2

I added this:

Examples of Projects:

*Enhance and improve current assistive technologies as per RSI reduction research an implementation.
*Include app viacam as a default program for testing throughout the cycle
*Incorporate ubuntu-mate patches and test ubuntu-mate-software center for integration with ubuntu-unity

William Grant (wgrant) said : #3

A Launchpad project group is purely a grouping of Launchpad projects. Each project represents a piece of software. For example, https://launchpad.net/unity and https://launchpad.net/notify-osd are both significant Unity-related projects, but they're both already in a project group so couldn't be in one that was created for you.

What do you hope to do with the project group?

ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #4

ubuntu-unity-meta

is the current related project.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-unity-meta

ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #5

I will discuss this with khursid-alam and get back.

Regards..

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project group so couldn't be in one that was created for you.

What do you hope to do with the project group?

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ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #6

That ubuntu-unity-meta will be moved into /main and that ubuntu-unity will become official flavor. This is what we hope to do . This is what were were advised to do. Other than this I am not sure how to answer your question. Thank you for your time and patience in this matter.

ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #7

Status => Open

Thanks William.

Regards..

Khurshid Alam (khurshid-alam) said : #8

Hi William,

Ubuntu-Unity will be a separate project group than already existing Ayatana Project group. Not everything in Ayatana project group will be a part of Ubuntu-Unity project. Many new project will be added (may be few mate projects) like Dale mentioned in the example section.

Having a separate project group will give us following advantages:

a) All ubuntu-unity components will be listed under this group. This will help us to co-ordinate our effort for maintaining unity.

b) We will be able to create branch only related ubuntu-unity but not part of any other projects.

c) Bugs tracking will be easier, we will be able to view all bugs from all related projects.

d) The project-group page can serve as a home page of Ubuntu-Unity.

Atm, we don't have access to ayatana project group and given circumstances, the present goals and objectives of these two project-groups are very different.

William Grant (wgrant) said : #9

On 30/11/17 04:02, Khurshid Alam wrote:
> Hi William,
>
> Ubuntu-Unity will be a separate project group than already existing
> Ayatana Project group. Not everything in Ayatana project group will be a
> part of Ubuntu-Unity project. Many new project will be added (may be few
> mate projects) like Dale mentioned in the example section.
>
> Having a separate project group will give us following advantages:
>
> a) All ubuntu-unity components will be listed under this group. This
> will help us to co-ordinate our effort for maintaining unity.
>
> b) We will be able to create branch only related ubuntu-unity but not
> part of any other projects.
>
> c) Bugs tracking will be easier, we will be able to view all bugs from
> all related projects.
>
> d) The project-group page can serve as a home page of Ubuntu-Unity.
>
> Atm, we don't have access to ayatana project group and given
> circumstances, the present goals and objectives of these two project-
> groups are very different.
Thanks for the information; that's exactly what I needed.

It sounds like you don't want ubuntu-unity itself to be a project group. In particular, a project group can't have bugs, branches or other resources of its own -- it only groups those things from its constituent projects. You'll also see that other Ubuntu flavours (eg. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate) have normal projects, not project groups.

It might make sense for you to have a project group to replace Ayatana for projects that are moving under your stewardship, but I don't think ubuntu-unity itself should be that project group, particularly if other distros might want to use projects that you maintain.

ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #10

changed ubuntu-unity to => ubuntu-unity7-desktop-experience

Khurshid Alam (khurshid-alam) said : #11

Hi William,

Thanks for quick response. I understood your point of view.

I agree that ubuntu-unity as the name of the project group is not appropriate here. We rushed a bit when choosing a name. "Ubuntu Unity (7) Desktop Experience" sounds much better as a project group and perhaps "ubuntu-unity" can be a project (though not necessary) under Ubuntu Unity (7) Desktop Experience.

But first let me explain where this idea of project-group emerging from. Unity developer Marco Trevisan, previously, suggested that we should move all related project to git(hub/lab). I pointed out that we could use git based wokflow in launchpad as well and in the decided to use launchpad instead. But if we were to move to github we would have created a "Ubuntu Unity (7) Desktop Experience" in github and added related projects under it like what Mate did (https://github.com/ubuntu-mate). That would be the most logical approach for us. But as we decided to stick with launchpad, I just want to achieve something similar on launchpad. Is there any technical limitation for a project to be a part of two separate project-groups?

ventrical (dale-f-beaudoin) said : #12

changed ubuntu-unity7-desktop-experience to => Ubuntu Unity Experience

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) said : #13

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