Venetian language

Asked by Fabio on 2010-05-11

Hi there, we will be grateful if Venetian language (ISO639-3 "vec") will be included into the list of available languages so we can start translations to it on the Launchpad platform.

best regards,
Fabio

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Jeroen T. Vermeulen
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2010-05-18
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2010-05-18
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2010-05-18

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Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv) said : #1

Done: https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/vec

(I've blindly assumed that the language is spoken in Italy... please correct me if I'm wrong)

We'll still need plural information about the language. Do plurals work the same way as in Italian?

Fabio (mistro) said : #2

Hi Jeroen,
yes, the language is spoken in Italy, in Chipilo, Mexico, and on the whole State of Rio Grande do Sul (Brazil) under the name of "Talian".

Plurals are similar but not ever equivalent to italian forms. There are some exceptions, and they're hardly definible with few simple rules. For instance the main language(s), venetian, central, eastern, feltrin-bellunese & al. does not varies at all for feminine names ending with /-ón/. In this case only the western dialects are stick to italian form.
I don't know what kind of details you need. please let me know.

Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv) said : #3

I should have said a bit more about this. For gettext translation we need to know just 2 things about how plural forms work in a language:

First, how many forms it has. The conventional "singular and plural" means there are two forms. Some languages don't have this kind of distinction, and use only one. Others have special forms for other numbers, e.g. a "dual" for when there are exactly 2 of something. The conventional numbering for 2-form languages is 0 for singular, 1 for plural.

Second, which of these forms is used for which numbers. We need to know this so gettext can choose between, for example, "%d table" and "%d tables". In English, you have "1 table" and then "2 tables" "3 tables" "4 tables" and so on. For zero (important to remember that case!) it's "0 tables". So the formula for English, written in C, is: "n != 1". That evaluates to zero (singular) if n is 1, and to 1 (plural) for all other numbers. Some other languages use the singular "0 tables."

So in that sense, purely with regard to when you choose singular and when you choose plural, does Venetian work the same as Italian?

Fabio (mistro) said : #4

First:
two forms

Second:
Yes!

thank you
Fabio

Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv) said : #5

Thanks. The updated information is at https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/vec

Fabio (mistro) said : #6

Thank you.
This solves the description of the language, but venetian is not active yet. I cannot get actively into translation projects.

Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv) said : #7

To fix that, first set Venetian as one of your preferred languages.

Fabio (mistro) said : #8

yes, I know that, but Venetian is not present (or i cannot see it) into the listo of available languages.
thaks

David Planella (dpm) said : #9

Fabio,

In which list exactly cannot you see it? I.e. what are you trying to do? Are you trying to translate a particular project?

The more detailed the question, the more accurate the answer can be.

Adi Roiban (adiroiban) said : #10

Venetian is _not_ active in Launchpad, see https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/vec
 "Active in Launchpad: False"

This is why it is not listed as an option for your preferred language.

If we want to enable Venetian translations into Launchpad, we must activate it first.

Best Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv) said : #11

My mistake. If you add the language to your preferred languages, it will show up in lists. But it seems that disabled languages no longer show up in the options for preferred languages!

I've made the language visible now.

Fabio (mistro) said : #12

thank you, I was able to select the language.