Shifted display of colour palette

Asked by Christoph Bartz on 2018-08-16

When I open colour palette (SHIFT + STRG + W) and select a common GIMP palette, the spatial arrangement of the colours is often shifted.
The reason for that is, a common GIMP palette is constructed as a grid with a defined number of columns.
Now, Inkscape's first entry in every palette is the »No Fill« entry (the dark red cross).
In consequence, the whole palette is shifted one position at right, and now the spatial order doesn't fit anymore.
That is sadly annoying. Is there any way to turn off that first »no fill« entry, that inkscape adds automatically?
Best regards,

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Christoph Bartz (sipel) said : #1

Oh sorry, here some information:
Inkscape 0.92
Windows 10, 64 bit

Hachmann (marenhachmann) said : #2

No, I don't think it can be turned off currently.
If you want to make a feature request, you can do so here:

(But I wonder why the grid is of such high importance? Inkscape seems to use rows of either 8 or 16 colors always. What does Gimp do different? Would be good to explain those questions there, too.)

Christoph Bartz (sipel) said : #3

Thank You for Your answer. I will make a feature request soon.

Btw, the grid per se is not the important thing, but the spatial order, which the colours are listed.
An example with an 3-coloumn-palette:

Open inkscape → Press [Shift]+[Strg]+[W] → (colour palette appears) → choose the palette »Tango icons« (it should be included with inkscape installation) → Now look at the order of the colours! It looks like that:

{none} {Yellow1} {Yellow2}
{Yellow3} {Green1} {Green2}
{Green3} {Orange1} {Orange2}
{Orange3} {Blue1} {Blue2} etc...

→ This is a very unfortunate order of colours, isn't it? It is caused by the first {none} entry. Without it, it could be like this:

{Yellow1} {Yellow2} {Yellow3}
{Green1} {Green2} {Green3}
{Orange1} {Orange2} {Orange3} etc...

→ So, my request would be: Please add a opportunity to turn off the first {none} entry OR to make it shown at the end of the colour palette.

Hachmann (marenhachmann) said : #5

If you'd like me to be honest, I'd say that problem is probably not going to be addressed by devs. This is because palette files do not come with instructions for their layout, or any internal grouping. They are just a list of colors.

The no-color field is needed for the less advanced users. We know how to right-click on the fill color field, or to click on the x icon in the Fill&Stroke dialog, but others don't... Having it at the bottom doesn't help anyone.

Being able to configure it away, ... mmmh. I think this is a problem that almost no one else has, and devs need to weigh cluttering the user interface with (possibly confusing) options vs. usefulness.

Still, I had asked you to make a report, because other people might see this differently, or see a great need, and find a way to make this not clutter the UI. Just I don't have high hopes that this will be implemented.

Christoph Bartz (sipel) said : #6

Indeed, it isn't such a big problem, that's right.

In Bug #557281 Mr Kieffer sum it up concisely:

Hachmann (marenhachmann) said : #7

Ah, that's good. So it seems there are two reports for the same thing now.

To keep Inkscape's bug tracker clean (as you probably can guess, Inkscape has a problem with bugs not being tackled on time), can you compare the two reports with respect to quality and completeness, and decide which of them should become the duplicate? And then suggest closing that report in favor of the other one?

Hachmann (marenhachmann) said : #8

Oh, I just saw yours was already marked as a duplicate. Ignore the above :)

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