Massless spin-2 propagator

Asked by Jiaming Zheng

I want to study the decay rate and cross section of some processes mediated by a massless spin-2 particle(graviton). The gravitons are virtual and do not appear in the external states. According to the manual, only massive spin-2 particle and its propagator are implemented in CalcHEP. There is a discontinuity between the massive and massless spin-2 theory so setting a small mass to a massive spin-2 particle does not seem to be a safe workaround for my purpose.

I can get the analytical expression of matrix elements with other packages. However, I hope I can use CalcHEP to integrate numerically the multiple particle phase space.

Is there any way to implement a massless spin-2 propagator in CalcHEP? I guess it might be done by changing the hard-coded massive spin-2 propagator in the source code. If this is the case, which part of the code should I look at?

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Alexander Pukhov (pukhov) said :
#1

I do not know how to write propagator and matrix density for massless
particle spin-2.

Best

    Alexander Pukhov

On 7/3/21 3:01 PM, Jiaming Zheng wrote:
> New question #697827 on CalcHEP:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/calchep/+question/697827
>
> I want to study the decay rate and cross section of some processes mediated by a massless spin-2 particle(graviton). The gravitons are virtual and do not appear in the external states. According to the manual, only massive spin-2 particle and its propagator are implemented in CalcHEP. There is a discontinuity between the massive and massless spin-2 theory so setting a small mass to a massive spin-2 particle does not seem to be a safe workaround for my purpose.
>
> I can get the analytical expression of matrix elements with other packages. However, I hope I can use CalcHEP to integrate numerically the multiple particle phase space.
>
> Is there any way to implement a massless spin-2 propagator in CalcHEP? I guess it might be done by changing the hard-coded massive spin-2 propagator in the source code. If this is the case, which part of the code should I look at?
>

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Alexander Belyaev (alexander.belyaev) said :
#2

One can implement the model discussed here
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/85124739.pdf

On 04/07/2021 12:15, Alexander Pukhov wrote:
> Question #697827 on CalcHEP changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/calchep/+question/697827
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Alexander Pukhov proposed the following answer:
> I do not know how to write propagator and matrix density for massless
> particle spin-2.
>
> Best
>
>    Alexander Pukhov
>
>
> On 7/3/21 3:01 PM, Jiaming Zheng wrote:
>> New question #697827 on CalcHEP:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/calchep/+question/697827
>>
>> I want to study the decay rate and cross section of some processes mediated by a massless spin-2 particle(graviton). The gravitons are virtual and do not appear in the external states. According to the manual, only massive spin-2 particle and its propagator are implemented in CalcHEP. There is a discontinuity between the massive and massless spin-2 theory so setting a small mass to a massive spin-2 particle does not seem to be a safe workaround for my purpose.
>>
>> I can get the analytical expression of matrix elements with other packages. However, I hope I can use CalcHEP to integrate numerically the multiple particle phase space.
>>
>> Is there any way to implement a massless spin-2 propagator in CalcHEP? I guess it might be done by changing the hard-coded massive spin-2 propagator in the source code. If this is the case, which part of the code should I look at?
>>

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Jiaming Zheng (zhengjm3) said :
#3

Thanks a lot for the messages!

The massless spin-2 propagator I want to have has the form of, for example, Eq.(47) in https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0607045

Is there a way to define my own propagator in CalcHEP?

Best,
Jiaming Zheng

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Best Alexander Pukhov (pukhov) said :
#4

Dear  Jiaming Zhen.

Unfortunately there is no way to implement new propagator by the user.

In the paper that you sent us  propagator in presented in helicity
formalism, but CalcHEP  uses a squared diagram approach, an thus we need
symbolic formula for propagator which should depend on some auxiliary
vector.

Yes, it  should be nice to implement graviton  in CalcHEP. But for
current moment I have not time for this job.

Best

    Alexander Pukhov

On 7/4/21 8:40 PM, Jiaming Zheng wrote:
> Question #697827 on CalcHEP changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/calchep/+question/697827
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> Jiaming Zheng is still having a problem:
> Thanks a lot for the messages!
>
> The massless spin-2 propagator I want to have has the form of, for
> example, Eq.(47) in https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0607045
>
> Is there a way to define my own propagator in CalcHEP?
>
> Best,
> Jiaming Zheng
>

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Jiaming Zheng (zhengjm3) said :
#5

Thanks Alexander Pukhov, that solved my question.