No easy way to revert pppoeconf's configuration changes

Bug #151539 reported by Afiefh
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: pppoeconf

After configuring my PPPoE connection with pppoeconf I bought a router, trying to connect it to eth1 doesn't work because pppoe still claims that connection.

The way to solve this is to manually edit configuaration files from what I saw, this is a serious usability bug for anybody who happens not to know which files to look at. Ideally it could be solved with pppoeconf --revert or a similar command being added.

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Borden Rhodes (dominussuus-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

On my PPPoE connection on Gutsy (and before then, for that matter), I have no difficulty switching between PPPoE connections and Ethernet connections without touching pppoeconf. When you have the troubles, see whether there's a ppp# running since that'll be what's 'hijacking' the connection, and you can easily disable that by "sudo poff -a"-ing. I don't think that this is so much a problem with pppoeconf but with something else trying to force a DSL connection when one clearly doesn't exist.

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Afiefh (afiefh) wrote : Re: [Bug 151539] Re: No easy way to revert pppoeconf's configuration changes

True, but how can I tell my 15 years old cousin that she has to do
this every time she wants out of pppoe mode and into regular ethernet?

I could do it if there were some graphical interface like Network
manager to do it, but unfortunately the only "graphical" interface is
pppoe, which doesn't offer that functionality.

Don't get me wrong, I love command line and do a lot of things through
it, but some things(kind of "what regular user's need") should have a
graphical way to configure, turn off/on.

Afief

On Jan 9, 2008 1:40 AM, Borden Rhodes <email address hidden> wrote:
> On my PPPoE connection on Gutsy (and before then, for that matter), I
> have no difficulty switching between PPPoE connections and Ethernet
> connections without touching pppoeconf. When you have the troubles, see
> whether there's a ppp# running since that'll be what's 'hijacking' the
> connection, and you can easily disable that by "sudo poff -a"-ing. I
> don't think that this is so much a problem with pppoeconf but with
> something else trying to force a DSL connection when one clearly doesn't
> exist.
>
>
> --
> No easy way to revert pppoeconf's configuration changes
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/151539
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

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Borden Rhodes (dominussuus-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

I agree entirely with your argument with the reservation that I think pppoeconf is the wrong suspect and that this complaint should be going to Gnome's network manager or something (I'll see what the KDE equivalent is on my end). Are you howling any of them up?

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Afiefh (afiefh) wrote :

I haven't done so, but if you want it please feel free.
I submitted the bug report a few months ago when I had trouble
removing pppoe from my cousin's PC after he got a router... but that's
been long ago.

note: in KDE it's KNetwork-Manager I think

On Jan 15, 2008 3:46 PM, Borden Rhodes <email address hidden> wrote:
> I agree entirely with your argument with the reservation that I think
> pppoeconf is the wrong suspect and that this complaint should be going
> to Gnome's network manager or something (I'll see what the KDE
> equivalent is on my end). Are you howling any of them up?
>
>
> --
> No easy way to revert pppoeconf's configuration changes
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/151539
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

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Daniel T Chen (crimsun) wrote :

Has 8.10's network-manager made this issue any easier to work around?

Changed in pppoeconf:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
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frizzle21 (frederik-nnaji) wrote :

we're in 10.04 and seems like pppoeconf still breaks Network Manager..
even wireless & co are unavailable now after pppoeconf is run.. network manager is simply disabled.
what's with this?

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Afiefh (afiefh) wrote :

@frederik.nnaji:

I haven't had to setup a PPPOE network in a long time, but I read some time ago that Network-Manager supports them. Did you try using Network Manager to configure your pppoe netowrk?

on Ubuntu 9.10 you could edit it this way: right click on the network manager icon -> edit connections -> DSL -> add

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frizzle21 (frederik-nnaji) wrote : Re: [Bug 151539] Re: No easy way to revert pppoeconf's configuration changes

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 23:08, Agony <email address hidden> wrote:

> @frederik.nnaji:
>
> I haven't had to setup a PPPOE network in a long time, but I read some
> time ago that Network-Manager supports them. Did you try using Network
> Manager to configure your pppoe netowrk?
>
> on Ubuntu 9.10 you could edit it this way: right click on the network
> manager icon -> edit connections -> DSL -> add

sure i tried.
unfortunately:
a) nm doesn't have an interactive configuration wizard like pppoeconf
b) nm's default detail preferences seem uncompatible with certain hardware
c) if newbies make mistakes, there is no easy way to reset nm to "auto"

pppoeconf has none of these problems, gets your DSL up and running within
seconds..
strange that the two programs refuse to get along with each other so badly..

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Dmitry Shachnev (mitya57) wrote :

Can you tell me how to remove "pon" from autostart and restore NM default Auto Eth0 connection? (I tried to remove ppp lines from /etc/network/interfaces, but it deedn't help).
I used pppoeconf as a habit :)

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Dmitry Shachnev (mitya57) wrote :

Now I don't even see NM icon in notification area (but I see it after going to sleep mode > recovering from it)

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Sunil K Mathew (sunilkmathew35) wrote :

 I also had the the same problem. It was working till first reboot. The NM icon in the notification area has been disappeared, the static ip's are deleted and even ping is also failed. Why is this? how to resolve this problem?

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Thomas Hotz (thotz-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Confirming because it happens to several users.

Changed in pppoeconf (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
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