Negative weights for Wjj in SM at LO

Asked by matteo maltoni

Dear MG5 experts,

I'm generating Wjj in the SM (with a BSM model of mine) at LO, without parton shower, with the following syntax:

> import model SM4LQatNLO_MFV
> generate p p > l+ vl j j QCD=0 NP=0 @0
> add process p p > l- vl~ j j QCD=0 NP=0 @1

To my surprise, ~40 events out of 1e5 that I generated present a negative weight.

I'm using NNPDF30 NLO, for which central values do not seem to be forced into positive-definiteness, and I'm also biasing the events proportionally to m_jj to get better statistics in the tails.

Do you find this normal, or might it flag some problems in my model?

Cheers,

Matteo

P.S: Here's the generation banner, let me know if you need any further info:

set group_subprocesses Auto
set ignore_six_quark_processes False
set low_mem_multicore_nlo_generation False
set complex_mass_scheme False
set include_lepton_initiated_processes False
set gauge unitary
set loop_optimized_output True
set loop_color_flows False
set max_npoint_for_channel 0
set default_unset_couplings 99
set max_t_for_channel 99
set zerowidth_tchannel True
set nlo_mixed_expansion True
import model sm
define p = g u c d s u~ c~ d~ s~
define j = g u c d s u~ c~ d~ s~
define l+ = e+ mu+
define l- = e- mu-
define vl = ve vm vt
define vl~ = ve~ vm~ vt~
import model SM4LQatNLO_MFV
define p = 21 2 4 1 3 -2 -4 -1 -3 5 -5 # pass to 5 flavors
define j = p
generate p p > l+ vl j j QCD=0 NP=0 @0
add process p p > l- vl~ j j QCD=0 NP=0 @1
output pp_lvjj/sm_lo
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Best Olivier Mattelaer (olivier-mattelaer) said :
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Hi,

Difficult to comment on that, but sounds reasonable.

Cheers,

Olivier

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matteo maltoni (matteo-maltoni) said :
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Thanks Olivier Mattelaer, that solved my question.